Is Fiora Balanced?

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Is Fiora Balanced?

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BeatzBoyFTW5 votes
  • Passive has no cooldown.
  • Gets infinite mobility just because her Q hits a minion.
  • Not much counterbuilds when she has too much true damage on her & an auto-attack speed boost slow/crit E.
  • W parries off AAs, debuffs & abilities. Even being able to parry more than once........
Ralanr1 votes

A lot of passives have no cooldown. They aren't supposed to because they are passive.

Technically every champion with a mobile ability has infinite mobility. It's just a cooldown that keeps it in check and it reduces for her when she hits something.

Don't know if we can really say she has no counter build. Attack speed slow items could work (though they don't seem to provide much effect in my experience).

W is great if you can time it right. If not then it's a long cooldown ability. Not sure how she can parry more than once if it's on cooldown. Care to explain?

Baby Ghoul1 votes

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  • Passive has no cooldown.
  • Gets infinite mobility just because her Q hits a minion.
  • Not much counterbuilds when she has too much true damage on her & an auto-attack speed boost slow/crit E.
  • W parries off AAs, debuffs & abilities. Even being able to parry more than once........
  • Passive requires you to re-position yourself every time around the enemy, smart enemies protect their vitals, or fall back when it's in an easy position to make it reset
  • She does not have infinite mobility. It costs mana, and it goes on a cooldown that is reduced if she hits an enemy with Q.
  • AS reduction item 3143 item 3110 and item 3140 item 3157 if you wish to stop her ultimate.
  • W roots you and has a 0.75 sec channel time. I notice people who talk about Fiora's parry don't like to mention that positioning and timing is crucial in using that ability effectively.

Be honest with yourself.

WalkingInACircle2 votes

Wow, that 20 mana cost on her q sure limits her. And it even scales as high as 40!

She's very mobile, she does a lot of damage, and she has a very powerful defensive mechanic.

What makes her balanced is the same thing that limits every other overtuned melee carry: being a melee carry. Like Riven.

But please, "Q cost mana"? Be honest with yourself.

Baby Ghoul1 votes

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Wow, that 20 mana cost on her q sure limits her. And it even scales as high as 40!

She's very mobile, she does a lot of damage, and she has a very powerful defensive mechanic.

What makes her balanced is the same thing that limits every other overtuned melee carry: being a melee carry. Like Riven.

But please, "Q cost mana"? Be honest with yourself.

She's meant to be mobile. You're never going to take away her mobility, so it's best to adjust to it like we all are. She's not even the most mobile champion in the game, or top lane.

I am being honest with myself. Q does contain a mana cost, and it is not infinite.

Do not compare Fiora to Riven. One short dash paired with a mana cost is not nearly as bad as 4 back to back dashes at no cost. Riven's Q goes on cooldown after the first, then has a knockup after it ends.

You two need to learn the meaning of honestly and context. Context is very important. If you're proposing mana cost increases on her Q, then do that. I believe a mana cost increase on Q will not hurt or help. It will not change that she's meant to be mobile, and it will not be gutted. Don't just list random things without any context and expect people to take you seriously. We all can read her abilities, and we can all read the important parts you're leaving out. She has counterplay.

YUSS1 votes

She's meant to be mobile.

Lol look at this buffoon. Riven doesn't blow tanks into the sky and then heal her entire team for 2x janna ults.

Riven also don't have garunteed crits. A defensive Mechanic designed not just to stop 3 champs from using all their cds in .5 seconds to blow your overpowered ass up. But to infact, reflect the stun back.

30% of her output damage is true. With 15-20% being off an auto attack reset that garuntees a crit.

She has too much in her kit. 1 ability needs to be completely gutted into worthlessness and another ability needs to be toned down. That would Justify her ult and passive.

Shes Permabanned in ranked so this doesn't warrent any further discussons or any biased counter arguments from yourself. You can't build against her and her Kit isn't counterplayable. There is nothing further to discuss on the issue and you should accept the coming nerfs once they are annouced.

Baby Ghoul1 votes

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Lol look at this buffoon. Riven doesn't blow tanks into the sky and then heal her entire team for 2x janna ults.

Riven also don't have garunteed crits. A defensive Mechanic designed not just to stop 3 champs from using all their cds in .5 seconds to blow your overpowered ass up. But to infact, reflect the stun back.

30% of her output damage is true. With 15-20% being off an auto attack reset that garuntees a crit.

She has too much in her kit. 1 ability needs to be completely gutted into worthlessness and another ability needs to be toned down. That would Justify her ult and passive.

Shes Permabanned in ranked so this doesn't warrent any further discussons or any biased counter arguments from yourself. You can't build against her and her Kit isn't counterplayable. There is nothing further to discuss on the issue and you should accept the coming nerfs once they are annouced.

Oh honey I don't think so, but okay I could do another round with people who don't know how to have a discussion in G&B. This thread is a week old, but sure.

Riven isn't meant to blow tanks into the sky, but she has a far more overloaded kit with two forms of hard CC, 4 dashes, a shield, and an execute. And again, she's manaless. She can take a lot more damage than Fiora can. You can argue about that all you want, but those are the facts. I'm not interested in watching you twist yourself into a pretzel to make Fiora seem far more overloaded than Riven is.

Another fact is everything needs a counter, even tanks. They aren't meant to be used as shields like so many have used them during the tank meta. DPS counters tanks, and tanks counter burst damage. They are meant to be countered by champions like Fiora. Burst counters champions like Fiora.

Remember during the tank meta how everyone and their mother kept expression how much they hated it, and how it was the worst thing to ever happen? Remember how people would not stop QQing about how unkillable tanks were? Yeah, that was just a few months ago. It's funny how short the memory around here is.

She's actually not "permabanned" in ranked, and her ban rate is dropping along with her win rate, so wrong again. I don't expect anything less from a classy person such as yourself.

If you're looking for a mindless counter build you aren't going to get it, sorry. AS reduction is the best you're going to get. She's a champion you need to outplay, which is rather easy for a lot of matchups since her kit requires positioning and timing to work efficiently. She's meant to counter tanks. If you've gotten beaten up by a Fiora, chances are that player would do the same thing with any other champion. You didn't lose to that player because she's overpowered. You lost because the Fiora you were playing against was skilled with her. Outplay or get outplayed. On top of this she doesn't snowball like she used to either.

RoflOs3 votes

if people think that completely negating 1 second of burst every 10 seconds is balanced, they are high. Fiora is retarded, not only because of her w. Her q has 0 cooldown, her damage is too high and has 0 counterplay, and she heals WAY too much for how much damage she does.

Deep Terror Nami2 votes

She's the Grand Duelist. She's got to have amazing balance.

Ralanr2 votes

I think she's fine. She's seeing more play and is more defined from Master Yi.

And the vitals passive is pretty fun when you consider she is a fencer.

3tyson1 votes

just pick ad tf to her

Rıots Bad Client1 votes

ON paper imo shes pretty solid, they just need to tweak the numbers.

Ask Talon1 votes

Damn kiddos, this thread is one year old, but since I'm from that time, I can say for sure. Fiora is the easiest champion to counterplay in League. Take a Garen, get your asses a Black Cleaver, Mercury Threads, Sunfire Cape and Sterak's Gage and you just blow that mother****** into the air. "Oh no, she can deny your ult, Garen!". Well you can 'wait' for her W, and then use it. She can't predict when you're going to use it, can she? Also, with that much damage output, who gives a sh*t about her W? Take a Youmuu's and she can't do anything afterwards, you can even chase her real easy. And don't you dare come up with "Garen is an easy champ", there are no braindead champions. He is easy to learn how to play with, but hard to master. I'm mastery 7 with him ;D. Anywho, for 2 years it has worked, I have even blown away mastery 7 Fiora's. Plus, Garen is only 450 IP, not too expensive I think. Build armor pen (lethality now) and get health+damage items. EEEAAAASSSSYYYYY. Fiora is balanced, she has tons of counterplay. Get that bitchy burst damage tank and she's dead. (Sion can do the trick too. And so can Jarvan.)

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