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SirΤeemο··9 votes·729 views

This game became a joke in my opinion with some of the new runes ... if riot plans to make this game "easier" better make it balanced as well ...

just pick a random champion with good combo abilities , pick dark harvest gg

For example ... you pick soraka and u go top lane against whatever ... rather than being a good player all you need is to farm "souls" and deal 500 dmg auto once every few seconds . this doesn't show skills

This is why dota2 players and every other game's players laugh at LoL , League became a laughingstock in the gaming world the last 2 seasons . -- There are videos showing the damage in LoL and comparing them in Dota2 and other games , and people LAUGH .

in Season 3 you needed entire combos to kill 1v1 someone, which involved dodges , outplays everything ! now ? just dash on him and cast an ability.

And remember my words : Zoe will be the most pathetic and unbalanced thing u will ever see in this game .

zoe symbolises a "new era" the era of bad players becoming good for no reason at all .

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TEA Nietzsche 3 votes

This is why dota2 players and every other game's players laugh at LoL , League became a laughingstock in the gaming world the last 2 seasons .

You realize that Dota requires less mechanical skill than League? Dota is mostly about game knowledge and counterbuilding.

in Season 3 you needed entire combos to kill 1v1 someone, which involved dodges , outplays everything ! now ? just dash on him and cast an ability.

Dodging is less important than Dota as there are less skillshots. If you want to play something else then please just leave but stop talking about it.

bàn2 votes

LOL dota requires less mechanical skill? i bet you never fucking touched dota

Ixoziel1 votes

I played DotA since version 5.3x (around 10-12 years ago). He is right. How much skill does Bane's 5 second malz ult take? His 7 second sleep? How much skill does Skeleton King take? The hero has THREE PASSIVES and a point and click stun. You have heroes like PA and Ogre which are based around spamming point-and-click spells / auto attacks until you win the lottery and get a huge crit or multicast. You really think that's "mechanical skill"?

Clearly there are exceptions like Invoker, Tinker, and Chen. Still, the majority of the heroes are very easy.

SirΤeemο1 votes

you have to be very good to play dota2 ... im sure you never played dota2 . you are just another fun boy of riot games .

Ixoziel1 votes

Yeah sure, you have to be very good to play Skeleton King amirite? Those three passives sure are hard to use.

SirΤeemο1 votes

im sure u never played this champion , you just googled him ...

TEA Nietzsche 1 votes

Just think about it, Dota has much less skillshots, less skill usage in general (due to mana costs) which means that things like dodging matter less. Super efficient kiting with ADC's is very mechanically intensive but Dota obviously doesn't have that.

I don't mean to say that Dota is easy or even easier than League, but in terms of mechanics League is actually harder which is why your argument makes so little sense.

marpatt112 votes

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Just think about it, Dota has much less skillshots, less skill usage in general (due to mana costs) which means that things like dodging matter less. Super efficient kiting with ADC's is very mechanically intensive but Dota obviously doesn't have that.

I don't mean to say that Dota is easy or even easier than League, but in terms of mechanics League is actually harder which is why your argument makes so little sense.

So, denying, csing, not dying from tp ganks/roams, counter picking, etc is all easier then league?

SirΤeemο1 votes

let him trash talk , he only plays league and minecraft

TEA Nietzsche 1 votes

**I don't mean to say that Dota is easy or even easier than League, but in terms of mechanics League is actually harder which is why your argument makes so little sense. **

marpatt111 votes

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yes, and all the MECHANICS I listed are hard to do in dota.

TEA Nietzsche 1 votes

I don't think you and I are talking about the same mechanics.

Counterpicking is not at all mechanically demanding as it's literally pressing on the champion and locking it in - in a very long time window.

What I was talking about is stuff like orb-walking, doing combos and hitting, predicting and dodging skillshots.

Stuff like counterpicking isn't reliant so much on hardware imput as it is on knowledge - which means that you completely missed my point.

marpatt111 votes

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I don't think you and I are talking about the same mechanics.

Counterpicking is not at all mechanically demanding as it's literally pressing on the champion and locking it in - in a very long time window.

What I was talking about is stuff like orb-walking, doing combos and hitting, predicting and dodging skillshots.

Stuff like counterpicking isn't reliant so much on hardware imput as it is on knowledge - which means that you completely missed my point.

Ah, still though, there are very mechanically challenging heroes/champions in dota (like invoker) and not so challenging heroes/champions (like wk/pa). Both games have challenging characters and not so challenging characters to play, take fizz vs A Sol

TEA Nietzsche 1 votes

Look, I am perfectly fine with you saying that both are equally mechanically demanding - even though I disagree.

But I am not fine with OP making the point that Dota is significantly more demanding than League when this is just clearly wrong.

Catastrop1 votes

Um, Denying CS? Skill buffering? Managing several(sometimes literally an entire inventory) Item actives? Bottle Crowing? Really, I could go on.

Just to clarify, I'm not saying that DotA 2 is superior to League in anyway, but saying League is harder is just silly.

TEA Nietzsche 1 votes

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Um, Denying CS? Skill buffering? Managing several(sometimes literally an entire inventory) Item actives? Bottle Crowing? Really, I could go on.

Outweighed by less dodging/kiting

Just to clarify, I'm not saying that DotA 2 is superior to League in anyway, but saying League is harder is just silly.

I did never say that League is harder, he said that Dota is more mechanically intensive which I disagreed with and said that it's mechanically harder if anything.

I don't mean to say that Dota is easy or even easier than League

marpatt111 votes

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im sure u never played this champion , you just googled him ...

he is refering to him as skeleton king, a clear sign that he hasn't played the game recently.

Catastrop1 votes

"Let me pick what's recognized as the most hilarieasy hero in the game for my argument, yeah that'll show him."

Lmao if Wraith King is all you can quote from DotA, you should not be talking about it.

LiL Bunnie FuFuu1 votes

Skill is still required to do well, although I agree that new runes have too much of an impact right now. And they should be nerfed accordingly (especially aftershock, dark harvest, and electrocute).

SirΤeemο2 votes

playing some certain champions literally do not required any kind of skills rather than playing safe

LiL Bunnie FuFuu2 votes

Key word: "certain" champions

That isn't a problem with runes. That's a problem with champion design

SirΤeemο1 votes

these certain champions , with the new runes : 1. easy to play 2.easy to get kills that's the problem , people some champs that are easy to play , u don't need critical thinking while playing and they can go in and get a kill easy

LiL Bunnie FuFuu1 votes

I said I agreed that runes have too much of an impact on gameplay. But runes reforged did not make the 'certain champions' stupid, as they were beforehand

TEA Nietzsche 1 votes

Based on your account you have practically only played champions that are not very mechanically demanding (and on a very low level aswell). Why are especially you so keen on insulting people by saying that their champions are easy?

SirΤeemο1 votes

you mean , based on my account's name...

FYI , i used to play zed and azir more rather teemo ...

TEA Nietzsche 1 votes

Is this your smurf? And if so could you please link your main?

cha0skarmma1 votes

I'm sorry but you lost to Soroka playing Teemo.

SirΤeemο1 votes

??

Sewer Side1 votes

Oh boy, another Dark Harvest thread.

Also, in S3 we has Nidalee spears one shotting everything and a gamewide Kassadin permaban. BUT MUH GLORY DAYS AND SKILL. what a joke.

SirΤeemο1 votes

dark harvest was an example . and nidale can 1 shot with Q because even now ..

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