I just played a game as Shen against an entire team of Physical damage dealers.

HandheldBrandon··3 votes·887 views

I built every single Armor item that i could muster and afford and they chewed through me like i was wearing no armor at all.

Seriously what is the point of Armor if even at 400 armor plus a thornmail they still chew through you like your paper?

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Yummines4 votes

Even if you have 400 armor, that doesn't mean you can just take aggro from a whole team all at once and expect to live for long. Especially if they have champs like Corki that have armor shred.

HandheldBrandon1 votes

It wasn't the whole team Primarily the Lee sin to keep him off my draven and Yasuo and the Talon who was pretty damn fed those 2 alone even with all my item shredded me like butter.

ScurvyNave1 votes

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HandheldBrandon1 votes

Except Yasuo was on my team.

ScurvyNave1 votes

Ah my bad misread the comment

EndlessSorcerer1 votes

Lee Sin had a Last Whisper, Black Cleaver, and 6% armor pen from masteries. You probably lost over half your armor from his items, and Kalista and Talon had quite a bit of armor pen as well. Instead of purchasing Iceborn Gauntlet, you probably would have been better off buying some more health to work with the armor you already had. A Trinity Force (if you wanted the damage) or Frozen Mallet (if you wanted the slow) would probably have been better options.

And, well, all of their AD champions were fed. Even if you are a tank, if you fall behind your opponents they can still kill you.

HandheldBrandon1 votes

I had Randuins and Sunfire and had a trinity force but they were melting me even faster when i had that so i sold that and built more armor then built the frozen gauntlet once i knew the game was over. Not sure what else i could have gotten at that point because nothing i did worked. Perhaps a frozen heart but the real problem was that they were melting me before i could really do anything other than peel them off Draven and Yasuo. The enemy was predictable in that they used the same tactic every time to get to Yasuo and i stopped them dead in their tracks every time but while the rest of their team focus on Nautilus (they had an affinity for killing him) Talon and Lee Sin would just Ignore the taunt once it ended and Melted me and then would Proceed to Melt Yasuo and Draven.

Blossom Dead1 votes

Kalista, Lee Sin and Talon had armor penetration. It's not surprising.

I woulde've gotten more health instead of Sunfire. Also no one on your team had Exhaust, which could've been helpful.

redniwediS4 votes

Were you trying to 1v5 or something? Tanks are supposed to work with DPS players, not go out and solo stuff.

HandheldBrandon2 votes

No sir i was not i was travelling with my team and doing my best to peel for my carries but Lee Sin and talon Were Melting me almost as fast as they melting Draven. Only took them 2-3 seconds longer.

ScurvyNave2 votes

Armor shred Corki Armor Pen Darius True damage Chogath RekSai and CritsYasuo Tryndamere OP

#Riot hates tanks item 3070

HandheldBrandon1 votes

None of them were even a factor in my game except for Yasuo who was on my team.

Kuroi861 votes

Well I can't find a match on your name with Shen either here or on lolking. Care to give what the team comps were? What you built, who on your team was fed, who on the enemy team was fed.

HandheldBrandon2 votes

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Well I can't find a match on your name with Shen either here or on lolking. Care to give what the team comps were? What you built, who on your team was fed, who on the enemy team was fed.

Of course

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1691924728/31994572?tab=overview hopefully this link helps.

Kuroi862 votes

So you had to go to lane against Lee Sin? Yeesh, that right there is a hell match up for any tank.

There is validity in your claim though. While Iceborn isn't the best of items for Shen, I'd have gone frozen mallet or warmogs but that's just me.

Of course they weren't full AD, but more than enough to validate going mostly armor.
Lee Sin going BC and LW was a big issue. Even between you and Nautilus going full tank, that's a massive blow to any defenses you could build. Yep, not a perfect case, but I'd say a good argument for the need for defenses to get some minor buffs.

HandheldBrandon1 votes

Yea the lane was actually going in my favor most of the time But he roamed bot lane and got a double kill and after that no one could touch him. I wanted to go Warmogs but by the time it came to that point they were already chewing through all of us.

Kuroi861 votes

Yeah, Lee Sin snowballing is kind of one of those holy crap situations you want to avoid at all costs. Keep him from snowballing, he's decent late game with his utility. If he snowballs though, well... Lets just say Kat and Akali got nothing on him.

DWT123451 votes

well, it forces the ad's to build armor penetration, which means they have to sacrifice some stats. Also, wtf did you build a thornmail against ad casters?

HandheldBrandon1 votes

Thornmail was to deal with Kalista everything else was just to help mitigate whatever i could. Frozen heart would have been pointless against everyone but Kalista as well as they didnt rely on basic attacks for most of their damage.

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