How Does Azir Feel To You guys on 6.14?/Should Rylais get a nerf?

Meow Meow Cafe·7/23/2016, 12:53:54 AM·2 votes·1,367 views

I've played him now and I'll say he's fairly balanced. Riot did as they said and nerfed his early and mid game damage somewhat although I fear people will still complain about him. He's at a %39 or so win rate at the moment. Although I feel like they be nerfing the wrong thing and instead they should be nerfing Rylais. Most champion that can use Rylais to it's full potential are often thought as unfun to play against, these champions being Brand, Azir, Malz, etc etc.

22 Comments

LadyRenly7/23/2016, 12:54:31 AM3 votes

id sooner see azir be deleted than rylais nerfede

Handy Sandy 7/23/2016, 1:07:57 AM3 votes

Azir has a tough time actually finishing people off because of his cooldowns. He mostly just controls lanes.

Rylais is fine how it is right now.

RcGjWO640w7/23/2016, 1:15:54 AM3 votes

Azir is still hilariously underpowered as far as dynamic goes, but the main reason he's at a 39% winrate right now is because he's free play this week and people are trying Azir out for the first time and just getting helplessly slaughtered.

What people bitch about with Azir isn't his strength, its his irrationally, head-slammingly, frustrating laning phase. His safety combined with his relatively high damage for poke makes him a nightmare to lane against without someone who can match his range. If you're playing a melee mid-laner other than Kat or Zed, just keep your towelette handy because you'll need it to mop up your tears. Combined with the fact that so long as he has mana, he's virtually ungankable and unall-in-able, you have yourself a champion who is the source of a lot of salt.

Beyond the laning phase, though... Azir is just pathetic. He's one of the weakest champions in the game when it comes to post laning phase. His teamfighting is usually lethal with a good frontline because he's on par with squish levels of Anivia and if you have a lacklusted frontline or no frontline at all, then good luck doing anything in a teamfight other than throwing down your ult for a little bit of peel when the enemy assassin dives you harder than a yellow submarine.

Azir dies... SO FAST... and it's not like it's actually hard to catch him, either. His defensive cooldowns are his offensive cooldowns, meaning if he has to use them in a teamfight, he might not have them up when he needs to... you know... not die.

Making an impact in a game as Azir is all but impossible without a lot of team coordination. There's a reason why he's a god-tier mid laner in professional team play and sort of a joke in regular ranked play.

Slamurai Jack7/23/2016, 1:44:41 AM2 votes

Rylais should be nerfed, but not because of Azir. The item simply gives too much AP for how powerful the utility is and needs to be toned down similar to how IBG was earlier in the season. Lower the AP from 100 to 80 and I'd satisfied; lowering the slow amount on AOE abilites to 35% or even 30% would also be acceptable. Because right now, the list of mages who don't build Rylais is considerably shorter than those that do, which is usually a sign of a utility item being overpowered.

SwiftKitten887/23/2016, 1:15:41 AM2 votes

... hell no do NOT nerf item 3116 .

yes certain champs might be op with it.. but it made so many prevoiusly non meta champ VIABLE it would be a disaster to nerf it.

the champs that are op with it need nerfs

Critmaster Garen7/23/2016, 6:29:11 PM1 votes

nerf rylais back to 80 ap.

perma slows are not cool. and champions shouldnt rely on them.

YurÌ on Ice7/23/2016, 9:58:24 AM1 votes

If that item gets nerfed than Azir and a bunch of other champs will need to be compensated with buffs for that.

RamRanchDressing7/23/2016, 6:08:44 AM1 votes

39%? That's unacceptable.

Let's shoot for 29%. Fuck Azir

QuantumPanther7/23/2016, 12:57:16 AM1 votes

I think that Rylai's is a very powerful item at the moment, but not so strong that it should be nerfed. It's doing it's job as a pricey AP item that builds out of item 1058 It deals decent damage and applies a slow. It makes you careful about how you play, although I do think Malzahar with Rylai's might be actual cancer

Meow Meow Cafe7/23/2016, 1:04:20 AM1 votes

I almost forgot- Viktor as well with Rylais is really strong. So far Azir is feeling okay now. He's not as big if he were to be 3-0 although I feel like maybe Rylai's slow should be applied differently. Someone once suggested the slow only being able to proc within a certain amount of time such as only every 2-3 seconds to reproc it or possibly lowering the %40 slow to a lower value.