Remove LeBlanc's Q bounce to minions.

dakota saturn··2 votes·642 views

Leave everything else intact. Or don't. Nuke her damage if you want.

But she shouldn't have such high assassination potential and the best waveclear of all midlaners.

50+% ban rate. 52% winrate on high skillcap / difficult to play champion.

Nerfs pls. Ty.

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Bunnymap2 votes

Personally I would rather have an effect actually useful in a fight on my Q other than point and click damage.

dakota saturn1 votes

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Personally I would rather have an effect actually useful in a fight on my Q other than point and click damage.

It's fine - it can bounce in teamfights, or can bounce from 1 minion to a champion.

But bouncing and clearing an entire wave in 1 spell on an assassin is just retarded. LB is good enough that she doesn't need the waveclear to still be a dominant champion.

Bunnymap1 votes

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It's fine - it can bounce in teamfights, or can bounce from 1 minion to a champion.

But bouncing and clearing an entire wave in 1 spell on an assassin is just retarded. LB is good enough that she doesn't need the waveclear to still be a dominant champion.

The problem is that to actually get it to bounce in team fights, you have to W straight into the enemy team. If their team isn't boosted, you'll be CCed before you can pop back

Calabok1 votes

nope

dakota saturn1 votes

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nope

y tho?

DemainaNyx1 votes

Yeah, that sorta bugs me. They wanted to eliminate her QW combo that gave her unlimited poke. The way to counter that before was to push her to tower, so she needed to use her abilities on the wave or lose cs.

Now she W + Q's the wave and then E's you. There's no trade off for her any more.

Calabok1 votes

but she's weaker than before and she can't delete you as fast.

dakota saturn1 votes

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but she's weaker than before and she can't delete you as fast.

This is dumb. Every single stat and shred of evidence shows that there is just no way shape or form she is weaker than before.

Her winrate has increased substantially, her pick rate has increased, and her ban rate has increased substantially.

On paper, yes there is a 1.5s delay added to her burst, but in practice, she now has a multitude of ways to GET that damage off, and to ensure a snowball every single game, regardless of what the mid laner tries to do to stop her.

You can try to argue that she is weaker based on the tiny delay added to her burst, but please explain HOW she is weaker, if every single piece of data and evidence points to the contrary?

ZephyrDrake1 votes

they explicitly gave her that so that she actually has wave clear outside of her W

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