So Duskblade is apparently going to be melee only in the future...but...

4EtQTKtcfT·8/11/2016, 3:10:52 PM·2 votes·1,254 views

You hopefully won't forget the fact that a lot of champions heavily rely on Ghostblade in order to function, will you?

The biggest abusers of the "Armorpen combo" are: MissFortune Jhin Lucian However, lots of other champions will get screwed over big time if Ghostblade is made melee only, such as: QuinnTwitch Graves and evenUrgot

Now you may ask what the reason is for this Armorpen combo with item 3142 item 3071 item 3147 ? Well it's simply the fact that games are decided a lot earlier this season than earlier seasons, and damage NEEDS to be purchased ASAP. Why would you save up for an item 3031 and item 3046 if the game might be decided even before you will be able to make use of Infinity Edge's passive crits? Crit takes too long to purchase and the price of AD items is simply too high. Why would you save up to 3700 gold for a item 3072 when you can simply snag a item 3147 for 600 gold less and on top of that get movespeed, armorpen, and an execution passive? AD items need to be tuned down in price in general.

When item 3147 was released Riot stated in the patch notes that they may make Duskblade melee only if any bigger problems with ranged champions abusing it are born. Every one thought that this was a good idea, but why does item 3142 need to be melee only now too?

Let's see which champs suffer the most if some of the following items are made melee: item 3071 : Urgot Lucian MissFortune Graves Gnar (?)Jayce (?) item 3142 : Jhin Lucian MissFortune Twitch Draven Quinn Graves Urgot item 3147 : Jhin Lucian MissFortune Graves (?)Quinn (?)Urgot (?)

For me it clearly seems like making item 3142 melee only will fuck up a lot of other champions than the actual abusers, and I believe only item 3147 and maybe....MAYBE item 3071 will have to be changed melee only to stop this "Adc's rushing armorpen meta". Also, if you do decide to say fuck this guy he doesn't know what he's talking about (me, writing this that is), at least remember to compensate the champions that suffer from these changes!

11 Comments

Hyperiön8/11/2016, 3:14:28 PM3 votes

Every single one of them functioned perfectly fine before the koreans fucked everyone over. They will still be able to function perfectly fine when the changes go through.

TyroneWatermelon8/11/2016, 4:54:52 PM2 votes

Fuck Lucian and Jhin. Let them build crit as intended

Critmaster Garen8/11/2016, 3:31:46 PM2 votes

item 3142 used to be a classic melee adc item that always scaled better on melee champs than ranged champs. the active used to last 4 seconds for ranged champs and 6 seconds for melee champs.

riot should have never removed the penalty for ranged champs on the active. imo they should put it back in.

would still allow everyone to buy it, but make it slightly less effective on ranged adc.

i also think Quinn can easily fall back on crit itemization. the burst and cooldown reduction she gets from crits on her passive will easily allow her to duel and assassinate squishies. ghostblade not being available to her wouldnt change her playstile.

i dont give two shits about what Graves wants. hes cancer and trash design. mobile ranged adc brusiers shouldnt exist. before theyre not fixing the disgusting amount of resistances on his e, and his obscene base stats, he shouldnt be taken into consideration when it comes to nerfs.

heckin dead8/11/2016, 3:22:15 PM1 votes

jayce and gnar switch from range to melee, so those items still benefit them. I havent heard anything on Riot saying those items were going to be melee only, except for duskblade. Apen build only really benefits adc in the early game when they have a chance to hard carry. If they don't get ahead, late game that build is garbage and most switch to crit anyways unless you're mf and your ult covers the whole map. No reason to be salty about a change like this. just get LDR and shred armor anyways.

Stephenizgod8/11/2016, 3:25:29 PM1 votes

Marksmen were suppose to build Crit and only a little bit of Armor Pen, more if they needed to. Now it is reversed, can't say I miss Crit meta all that much but i am not all that fond of Armor Pen meta either... Somewhere along the road Marksmen went from "Take Objectives" to "Kill everything and everyone in front of me that isn't an ally".

Avienal8/11/2016, 3:19:00 PM1 votes

Considering Dusk'blade you would normally only see on Zed and i literally saw no one else use it till this Armor penetration butt'crap, unless someone was trying a fancy build. Its understandable to prevent it on champions like Lucian, MF and Jhin.

While playing Jhin in some late game matches, I actually added Dusk blade as a second to last to last item game grab and because of his already high damage scaling, he would incinerate hp bars easily making it a perfect setup for dusk blade to proc kill. With Zed, it was normally to R in, proc auto and then let the damage compilation stack with the Dusk blade proc explosion so if Dusk blade triggered before Zed's ultimate goes off, the target will already have taken a chunk of hp, if Duskblade procs after the ultimate it would secure a kill just like a typical Ignite.

I don't mind changes for more items to get melee and range locked to mitigate out kit exploitation. Plenty of times i see Marksmen and Fighters like Yasuo, Darius or assassins like Zed and Talon make extreme use of it to gap close and run away depending how a fight goes.

Astôlfo8/11/2016, 4:03:24 PM1 votes

No.

SaltyKracka8/11/2016, 4:05:28 PM1 votes

Quinncer can get fukt.

lilpokfluf8/11/2016, 3:20:40 PM1 votes

I don't know how they didn't see dusk blade being a problem with jihn if anything that one should have been obvious from the start