Zilean counterplay????

Gamma Sector··1 votes·848 views

Specifically as a solo laner. He has like 1oo damage off one bomb level one, which outdamages most solo laners other than maybe darius top. Which Zilean can easily kite, even level one. He has a basically free timebomb cooldown refund, which is practically point and click because timebombs projectile speed is less like .5 seconds to land at full range, which isn't really enough time for any human to respond to. On TOP OF having a stupid high damage ratio. He can level up whoever he wants to which is absolutely BUSTED (team mate fell a bit behind because hes shit, and don't want the enemy to have any sort of chance to snowball?? dw. use your passive! recovering a team mate from being behind takes actual work with ANY other champ, not just one single point and click ability). His ult has a longer up time than kayle's AND is a GA. And on top of that, if you managed to escape the point and click stun off of his practically impossible-to-miss- double q, he can chase you down with his movespeed buff and kill you anyways. Where is the counterplay? and don't just say "dodge his timebomb" because that isn't counterplay. Nobody can dodge every skillshot thrown at them, ESPECIALLY when it has no cooldown. Also, don't say "you have like 15 seconds to kill him if he misses his double bomb" because once again, that's just counting dodging every point and click skillshot as counterplay. It'd be easily dealt with if he had some sort of mana problems, but I just faced one than nonstop spammed e+q's and he NEVER had to leave lane due to mana issues. Dude never had less than 25% mana at any point of the game. Even Akali's w doesn't give a far enough dash to escape a timebomb unless you have Faker-level response time. So if even the busted bitch Akali cant counterplay him, what the fuck can?

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Trap or a Trick2 votes

Bombs are pretty easy to dodge IMO, unless you let him get right on top of you and land a slow, in which case you can just clap his ass since he will be tanking creeps as well as being open to your full combo.

another thing to not about zilean, is that he cant 100-0 you with a regular rotation, it takes a long while of poking you to eventually be able to go in for the kill.

Zilean also has god awful mana issues, until he gets tear+morello, you can just drain his mana pool and engage on him once he is low or oom.

Hope this helped :3

Gamma Sector1 votes

I've kinda figured out how to play against him, but I still don't like his q mechanics. They stick to me even if the center is closer to a minion when it lands

Żügżwäng2 votes

Zilean isn't op, his passive is also pretty awful for a solo laner. I'm guessing you're referring to the game where you were Akali and lost to him. Zil only has 1 damage skill... Q. Once he tosses both out, he has nothing going for him. As akali at bronze I'm going to assume that you tried to be too aggressive early on as well and took a ton of free bombs, then fell behind (akali is awful when behind.. feast or famine champ). Basically, you can just throw out your Qs to chunk him down/farm your cs. When you're level 6, you can dive him hard and chunk him down. He either blows ult too early, or dies. If you proc his ult, great, sit on top of him and kill him when he gets back up, or just back up a bit, then repeat (bait out Qs, then all in him hard). Zilean isn't a freelo champ by any means.

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