So nobody wants to play jungle?

Jungle is a shit hole now because riot keeps hitting us with the fucking nerf stick.

No one wants to play a role that is going to be 3-6 levels behind solo lanes and only really has a presence in the game for the first 6 minutes.

Most jungle mains have given up and either swapped to lanes, or just quit the game all together.

B/c jungle xp nerfs reduced jungler agency. Basically your only shot at the solo lanes is when youre level 3/4 and solo laners are level 3-5, after that even if the lanes go even they'll pretty much be 2 levels up on you the rest of the game, and god forbid your solo lanes Hard Lose: Then the enemy solo laners Will be 3+ levels up on you for the rest of the game.

People try to say "jg most important b/c of dragons" but the fact of the matter is this is VERY SWINGY based on your bot/mid, Oh you're ahead of the enemy jg and solo killed him contesting crab? Doesn't mean a dam thing b/c your midlane and botlane both lost so you will never have dragon priority and your only shot is a very risky sneak.

But the XP nerf and being this far behind solo laners is actually so massive, Previous seasons even s9 you could still have a chance to salvage a solo lane that got behind, now its damn near suicide to try to fight the enemy top/mid that's 2 kills up.

We understand, solo lanes should outscale jungle that is fine, but where it is currently the "outscale" happens WAY too fast and has removed a lot of the opportunity Junglers had to impact the game.

Riot has a behavior system that punishes junglers, you expect people to queue to get their account punished?

I'm sorry but until riot apologizes for the insane CCP behavior system and restores honor / rewards they can have a nice big fat jungler strike.

RIOT is very slow to understanding that a gank meta is just as toxic as a under-leveled jungler meta. Give them a few months of no one queuing jungler, until they figure it out.

Its been like that in season 9 too.

Top and jungle have been the least popular roles for a long while in NA.

Jungle feels better than last season if you're ahead, and worse if you're even or behind. Which in the end makes it feel fucking terrible.

I'm still winning almost all my preseason jungle games but I'm either useless and just along for the ride or just get to stomp them because I play well or they misplay, and am STILL weaker than the 0/3 toplaner.

They said they're looking into it, and I hope it works out because SOME of the changes were definitely good. The overall exp nerf was disgusting and makes jungle almost always one-sided or lane-decided. I've seen so many more games where both junglers are 1/5 or something than last season when usually at least one team's JG was doing okay.

I don't want to join a game with a super lee sin player to get bullied for 15 mins. Nerf Lee.

I am jungle otp and the games where I get fed and can carry went from ~15% to maybe 3%. Now it's pretty rare that I even get my third item finished.

WELCOME TO PRESEASON BABY WHERE THE SHIT HITS THE FAN!

Nobody wants to play jungle in ranked because you're starved of resouces making it twice as hard to carry.

Simply put the compounded effect of all the season changes weakened junglers and restricted the viable champion pool too much.

i wanna play jungle but im so scared of being yelled at >.>

This board is too divided on this topic to make a logical conclusion on a daily basis I see arguments for both sides which is literally impossible.

Riot has increased the importance of jungle while nerfing the resources. Your either stuck perma ganking or perma farming and had made a jungler so weak that top and mid can just shit on them. You have to be constantly thinking about farming or ganking while keeping track of scuttle and rift and drake while also being under leveled and less gold so your weaker

I'm a top main who can do jungle second best, but because of this issue I always just queue Top/Mid, and I get top 99% of the time, and autofilled the rest.

Could just mean everyone wants to play top.

Though whenever I pick Fill it's usually Top, so I dunno.

I can't speak for others, but I haven't touched league since the jungle changes because that's the only role I want to play.

Other people might just be trying to grab other other roles for now, but O can't be the only jungle main avoiding the game right now.

I mean honestly, Jungle Main since I started in season 2 and almost every season I have to relearn how to jungle, it honestly just gets annoying. There was nothing majorly wrong with the jungle last season.

Noone want play top coz this lane have no impact even more than before its boring and dominate by mages and range cheese so ppls start being autofilled more top than support. Noone want play jungle because where is fun being 2 lvl behind solo lanes and in same time being in huge pression of win game because lets be fair jungle still is so important and if one jungler powerfarming to 6 and second jungler ganking and dont care about counter jungle will win more games because he will take xp form lanes,champs and be same level like powerfarm + have a lot of more gold. This preseson is just 2 steps back and not solve any problems...

Buff teleport to old days,lower cd and let us again cancel it like we could long time ago.This change give top possibility to help and control drakes. I know this change can made negative impact when other lanes start take tp as well but ffs how miloin $ company cant solve problems like that even by scripting it to (when tp anywhere being close to top turret your tp cd are reduced by 40%)(or when tp to top turret or some distance near it your cd is reduced by 40%)

Basically, it goes like this:

Riot has effectively given junglers a script this season. If they don't follow it, at least for the first like 10 minutes of the game, then they fall super far behind and the rest of the game becomes too frustrating to be fun.

Riot did this because junglers are impactful as fuck, but by taking away any sense of actual strategy from their role (should I farm, gank, or counterjungle, for example) as to lessen their impact by making their early game more predictable, they effectively prevent the role from doing anything after the slightest inconvenience throws their early game off course.