It feels like the only viable junglers are pemaganking tanks

macspam·9/23/2019, 7:32:09 AM·6 votes·4,530 views

Nunu, Amumu, Hecarim, Rammus, Skarner.

There is really no "snowballing" required here, they just need to remain tanky enough to be unkillable, and perma gank (soaking lane XP).

Getting their laner ahead means my squishy jungler cannot touch them, I am de facto 2 levels behind solo laners and will just pop.

Jungle is so unforgiving and nobody wants to play it. I swap with somebody who's autofilled because they say they're terrible. Guess what? I go 0-5 against Nunu jungle and the ADC is flaming me.

Unless you are playing a spam gank jungler there is no point in the role. The game will be decided by 20 min because the enemy jungle perma ganked.

Laners can easily AFK farm until 10-15 min to get their great item. But junglers have to waste 10 minutes getting their "special jungle item" that has basically no synergy with their kit. And in that time they must perma gank if they don't want to turn into a super minion.

With the abysmally low jungle XP the only junglers that can actually gank without exploding are tankier ones. Thus we end up with these stupid "movement speed tanks" like Nunu and Hecarim that tilt the heck out of me.

19 Comments

BrightWîngs9/23/2019, 11:27:38 AM5 votes

Top 10 junglers on OP.GG are DrMundo Elise Karthus LeeSin Nidalee Nunu JarvanIV RekSai Evelynn Olaf

and Skarner is still dog shit he is not even remotely close to viable compared to everything else

RadeticDraws9/23/2019, 1:06:51 PM1 votes

Rammus is the best of the bunch He is faster and has more control over his ganks than Nunu He has no skillshots like Amumu He does as much damage as Hecarim or maybe even more in lategame And Skarner is Skarner

He is perfect against Yi, WW, Udyr, Jinx, Vayne, Kog, Varus, basically anything with attack speed, except maybe Trundle cuz of his ult

But in my opinion tanks are not the best, you still have some that are more painful to deal with like stealth based ones Kha, Eve, Rengar, Twitch, Shaco All of these, if mastered, can and will snowball the game But if played carefully and with coordinated teamplay, they are not so hard to win against

FSRER9/23/2019, 3:54:24 PM1 votes

Perma gank tanks? I think you are back in season 7 or something because the only 2 jungle tanks viable are sejuani and nunu.

Tobykachu9/23/2019, 4:17:37 PM1 votes

Perma ganking in general is the only way to play jungle atm and it's not limited to tanks. Lee Sin, Kha'Zix, Xin Zhao, Jarvan etc. all fall victim to this play style and it's honestly the thing that's ruining the game for me atm. Laning properly is almost impossible when you always have to account for a potential jungler coming and ruining your day and truly takes a lot of skill out of the game.

The worst part is that it's a lose lose situation. Junglers hate the current state of jungle because they can't really carry themselves, they just act as a second support to get their team fed, whilst laners hate it because they can't really play aggressively and snowball a lead 1v1 (2v2 in bot lane's case) because the threat of a jungler is always imminent.

Minimac20009/23/2019, 6:08:40 PM1 votes

Everyone has to perma gank, kill gold and snowball is just way too strong and jg camps don't come anywhere close. Most fighter jgs are much better at ganking early i.e. jax, lee sin. Basically it's just champs like nocturne and mumu who are kinda screwed cuz their main ganking tool doesnt come till 6

Daddy Ants9/24/2019, 4:48:53 PM1 votes

??????

Lee is viable. Kha'Zix is broken Rengar is viable. Vi is strong, borderline OP. Elise is strong. Evelynn is OP. Master Yi is strong. Xin Zhao is strong. Jarvan is strong. Hecarim is strong. Nocturne is strong.

Plenty of carry oriented Junglers are viable.