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Darius can 1v4 650 Q Nasus , Sated Yi, Full crits Yasuo healing for 39% HP doing 1200 true damage.

Dremiist··5 votes·3,131 views

watch the 1v4 quadra kill at 8h21m20s (already linked the time in the video so no worry)

http://www.twitch. tv/sirhcez/v/14011027?t=501m20s (forum twitch link is broken you'll have to add it manually or it will send you to the main page)

Darius got a quadra kill 1v4 650 ish Nasus Q, Sated MasterYi , Full crits Yasuo and Janna

healing for 39% HP (heal increase mastery and item 3065 ) doing 1200 true damage with one single item item 3071 he build something like this item 3071 item 3742 item 3065 item 3068 item 3047 healing harder than Soraka on steroid

a single item 3071 a bunch of armor and he can 1v4 even Vayne W was literally useless he almost ran away from a 1v4 healing left and right. if it wasn't Vayne he'd never die.

you think Nasus is a good champ after all the nerf he received?

Why the hell did they nerf Garen over Darius now Garen have no chance against Darius it already was a hard matchup now Darius have literally no counters. if Darius was ahead then Garen could try and stop him from healing with his massive %HP true damage , now that riot nerfed Garen he have no chance because Garen had a very small chance.

his only counter is Vayne Fiora i don't even think Irelia can beat him and Nasus have no chance even with 1k Q

my real question is how do we report riot?

look at darius heals if you don't believe me he heal harder than full AP Soraka : http://apollo-na-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/1441193636/Dariusheals.jpg

and do retarded damage with 1 single item item 3071 : http://apollo-na-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/1441193400/retardeddariusdamage.jpg

you ban Fiora or you buy item 3140 item 3139 (it cleanse her ultimate) , ban Kayle and Vayne and it's free win nobody play that crap champ anymore Zilean

34 Comments

JJI7447 votes

I am going to ignor the overall balance of Darius. (IMO, the bonus AD from his passive is a bit over the top. And the buffs to his Q damage were rather generous)

But for that fight in particular, everyone played it incredibly poorly.

Nasus: went in as the only damage dealer, let Darius hit him for ~5s, proccing Darius' passive.

Janna: Seems to think that AAing as Janna is worth healing Darius for 30+% of his missing HP, and dying for. (Really, how does Janna get hit by 2 Qs?)

Garen+Yasuo: After Nasus and Janna back out, rather than waiting for Daruis' passive to time out, Garen and Yasuo run in, letting him refresh his passive. Yasuo also basically gets 2-shot.

Basically, everything that could go wrong, did go wrong. People ate the outter edge of Darius Qs, someone let Darius take the time to stack his passive intially, and people ran in blindly to refresh Darius' passive instead of waiting the ~3.5s it needed to time out.

MLDzXnRRR3 votes

Darius heals for 15% missing health for each enemy champion hit by Decimate's blade, up to a maximum of 30% missing health.

So to heal so much, you have to be tanky. Also going Frozen heart vs him is kind of waste of gold. I still think that the old Darius was kind of stronger - you gank him, he gets a double kill, then pushes to the nexus, because you need at least 3 people to stop him. The new Darius can't snowball like that.

Dremiist1 votes

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Darius heals for 15% missing health for each enemy champion hit by Decimate's blade, up to a maximum of 30% missing health.

So to heal so much, you have to be tanky. Also going Frozen heart vs him is kind of waste of gold. I still think that the old Darius was kind of stronger - you gank him, he gets a double kill, then pushes to the nexus, because you need at least 3 people to stop him. The new Darius can't snowball like that.

he heal for 39% of his health 10% health per champion to a maximum of 30% if you add defensive healing mastery and item 3065 it goes up to 39% 30x1.3= 39%

he never dies and gain 200 ad on his passive + scale AD armor pen and broken

Craft Zeppelin2 votes

i must really say that darius was supposed to be the opposition of garen. meaning no sustain. he isnt a magical girl in a tutu please dont add him heals

Gym Leader Yaki2 votes

By watching the replay, you all deserved to die (I'm not trying to be mean or anything). Like near the end, going in one by one was just silly. And giving him that last kill will make it all that much harder to take down. Now, I'm not saying Darius isn't OP or anything, all I'm saying is that in this clip, I don't really see the issue.

Dremiist1 votes

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By watching the replay, you all deserved to die (I'm not trying to be mean or anything). Like near the end, going in one by one was just silly. And giving him that last kill will make it all that much harder to take down. Now, I'm not saying Darius isn't OP or anything, all I'm saying is that in this clip, I don't really see the issue.

LeeSin

Arsames2 votes

4 absolute garbage players with 0 cc, wonder why they die to a fed juggernaut xD? Instead of going 1 by 1, if they went 4v1 they would win or if they had any form of reliable CC.

MLDzXnRRR1 votes

Only Nasus is supposed to 1v1 Darius - late game... Yi and Yasuo are minions.

Dremiist1 votes

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Only Nasus is supposed to 1v1 Darius - late game... Yi and Yasuo are minions.

"supposed"

Sasogwa2 votes

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Only Nasus is supposed to 1v1 Darius - late game... Yi and Yasuo are minions.

Yi/Yas are actually very strong lategame champions. Sated Yi can 1v1 1k stacks full build 400armor 3.5k HP Nasus with a trinity.

MLDzXnRRR3 votes

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Yi/Yas are actually very strong lategame champions. Sated Yi can 1v1 1k stacks full build 400armor 3.5k HP Nasus with a trinity.

Nasus 1shots Yi... Yi will need some time to chunk Nasus.

Sasogwa2 votes

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Nasus 1shots Yi... Yi will need some time to chunk Nasus.

Yeaaa.. no. As a Nasus main I tell you, Nasus is one of the best duellists in the game but Sated Yi is just too strong. He melts you in like 4-5 seconds. Enough for Nasus to do 2 Q's. If Yi meditates one of them, he wins. Actually if he has enough lifesteal he doesn't even need to meditate it. I really did this 1v1 in ranked games and Yi wins. Sated combined with Yi's E is just too stupid, you die entirely to true damage.

MLDzXnRRR1 votes

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Yeaaa.. no. As a Nasus main I tell you, Nasus is one of the best duellists in the game but Sated Yi is just too strong. He melts you in like 4-5 seconds. Enough for Nasus to do 2 Q's. If Yi meditates one of them, he wins. Actually if he has enough lifesteal he doesn't even need to meditate it. I really did this 1v1 in ranked games and Yi wins. Sated combined with Yi's E is just too stupid, you die entirely to true damage.

Nasus 1shots Yi, can't you understand - 1 Q and you are dead, is it hard to understand or what? Yi is a minion to be stacked. Sated is strong, but most people just let Yi to free DPS them and they try to flee. Trundle eats Yi, no matter Sated- mated- baited or anything. Jax - same. Nasus - same.

Sasogwa2 votes

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Nasus 1shots Yi, can't you understand - 1 Q and you are dead, is it hard to understand or what? Yi is a minion to be stacked. Sated is strong, but most people just let Yi to free DPS them and they try to flee. Trundle eats Yi, no matter Sated- mated- baited or anything. Jax - same. Nasus - same.

It's you who doesn't fucking understand. Nasus Q does never one shoot champions. It does a lot of damage but come lategame it doesn't do 2k+ damage after being reduced by armor. Simply not, you'd need around 1500 stacks to do that. It's simple basic logic and mathematics, if you don't understand that I can do nothing for you. It's not like I know nothing about Nasus and Yi. These are my 2 mains and I play in diamond.

PS : For LUCK5962, Yi is immune to AS slows when under ultimate (it's been patched, it used to be affected but not anymore)

MLDzXnRRR1 votes

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It's you who doesn't fucking understand. Nasus Q does never one shoot champions. It does a lot of damage but come lategame it doesn't do 2k+ damage after being reduced by armor. Simply not, you'd need around 1500 stacks to do that. It's simple basic logic and mathematics, if you don't understand that I can do nothing for you. It's not like I know nothing about Nasus and Yi. These are my 2 mains and I play in diamond.

PS : For LUCK5962, Yi is immune to AS slows when under ultimate (it's been patched, it used to be affected but not anymore)

Many Nasus players go with Crit + armor + CDR runepages - 1 Q is enough to oneshot Yi, if you crit. Also how often people try to manfight you? Yi often wins, because he is doing dmg for free with Q or chasing someone who tries to run from him... In a straight 1v1 it's easy to burst his squishy ass. He may deal dmg, but many champions also do enough dmg to kill him as fast as he can do it.

Sasogwa2 votes

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Many Nasus players go with Crit + armor + CDR runepages - 1 Q is enough to oneshot Yi, if you crit. Also how often people try to manfight you? Yi often wins, because he is doing dmg for free with Q or chasing someone who tries to run from him... In a straight 1v1 it's easy to burst his squishy ass. He may deal dmg, but many champions also do enough dmg to kill him as fast as he can do it.

you'll need to try that in a custom game to understand I guess. It's because Yi has the same gameplay as Nasus. You usually take TP and go splitpush and kill everyone that comes to defy you. In a match where Yi and Nasus are in the same game, there's probably gonna be one point where they will try to fight each other.

Actually tbh Nasus shits on Yi most of the midgame, but as late game comes, Yi becomes stronger 1 on 1. That's just how it is. No matter how weird it feels for an infinite scaling champion to get outscaled late. Ofc once he got enough stacks to oneshoot Yi he wins, but that doesn't happen in a normal game. And crit sucks on Nasus, it only works with his AD and not the bonus damage of Q.

And for the last time, Qcrit, even with 1k stacks, doesn't oneshoot Yi. Also it's unreliable, what do you do if it doesn't crit? Nasus can't have a 100% crit build and be relevant.

luckmallory1 votes

If you build 4 IE's ninja tabi and randuins you will have over 200 armor 100 percent crit chance so 600 stacks will do roughly 1200 base damage and it will crit so 3000 with IE passive.

Get one shotted

Sasogwa3 votes

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If you build 4 IE's ninja tabi and randuins you will have over 200 armor 100 percent crit chance so 600 stacks will do roughly 1200 base damage and it will crit so 3000 with IE passive.

Get one shotted

MasterYi item 3931 item 3153 item 3035 item 3072 item 3143 item 3047

Survives the Q and procedes to destroy you because you're nasus with only one defensive item, 0% cdr. He doesn't even need crit, he has huge on-hit true damage anyway (and botrk going with the pen of lw, and buffed by sated) BTW, damage of the Q : Nasus has 320+119 = 439 AD only this part goes with crit. 439*2.5= 1097.5 +bonus from stacks 600+110 =710

Total damage 1807.5

Yi has 2163 health at level 18.

And that's ignoring the fact he has also base armor, and can meditate through Nasus Q if he's good. (70% damage reduction boy)

Oh, and item 3715 also grants %damage reduction

luckmallory1 votes

Replace an IE with trinity force, now it one shotted him. It doesnt matter, it would just come down to whether or not yi meditates his Q and a good nasus will just auto you and wait for you to use it and if you dont and just start going ham his Q animation is faster than your W and you dont have reaction time that good. Also with just a randuins and ninja tabi he has 237 armor plus all of the health from randuins, his high base health, and his ult.

Funny that you forgot to calculate the bonus AD from his ult into the damage he would have more like 360-370 AD plus the 5 percent of his max health per second. He would definitely either get one shotted or killed by the next auto

EDIT- with tri force proc and masteries it would do 2200 damage as the trinity force does 200 percent of your base attack damage which would be an additional 270 damage plus the 2 percent increased from masteries and such. It may not one shot, but the next auto would definitely kill him.

Sasogwa2 votes

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Replace an IE with trinity force, now it one shotted him. It doesnt matter, it would just come down to whether or not yi meditates his Q and a good nasus will just auto you and wait for you to use it and if you dont and just start going ham his Q animation is faster than your W and you dont have reaction time that good. Also with just a randuins and ninja tabi he has 237 armor plus all of the health from randuins, his high base health, and his ult.

Funny that you forgot to calculate the bonus AD from his ult into the damage he would have more like 360-370 AD plus the 5 percent of his max health per second. He would definitely either get one shotted or killed by the next auto

EDIT- with tri force proc and masteries it would do 2200 damage as the trinity force does 200 percent of your base attack damage which would be an additional 270 damage plus the 2 percent increased from masteries and such. It may not one shot, but the next auto would definitely kill him.

Now take in account the fact Yi built a Randuins and tabi ninjas and now has 2563 health and 160 armor. (he doesn't even need both)

160 armor -> Your damage is divided by 2.6, your crits are reduced by 10% And on top of that he uses smite to have 20% more damage reduction.

Your Q doesn't even deal half his health even if Yi doesn't meditate it. Yi proceeds to kill you before you even have the CD for the second Q.

And your Nasus has a terrible build for 5v5, while Yi's build is at the same time a bit bruisery -> safe and has huge damage output.

BUT EVEN if the Yi built full squishy, his base armor divides the damage by 1.75 and the smite adds 20% damage reduction. Just no, forget the one-shoot idea. It doesn't work against level 18 targets, it's only if you're overfed against underleveled opponents. And even then, you really have to be in coop vs IA to be that fed.

luckmallory1 votes

OHHHHH we are talking about 5 v 5? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

you mean where nasus builds full tank and deals shit tons of damage and soaks tons of damage for his team while yi gets hit by one cc ability and gets instafucked.

oh ok my bad

Sasogwa1 votes

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OHHHHH we are talking about 5 v 5? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

you mean where nasus builds full tank and deals shit tons of damage and soaks tons of damage for his team while yi gets hit by one cc ability and gets instafucked.

oh ok my bad

Yeah , where Nasus gets kited as fuck and does next to nothing against a coordinated team as well.

luckmallory1 votes

Same applies for you except nasus will soak an absolute shit ton of damage for his team, making him much more useful

EndlessSorcerer1 votes

600 stacks will do roughly 1200 base damage and it will crit so 3000 with IE passive.

You don't actually know how Nasus' Q interacts with Critical Strikes, do you?

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Nasus

Critical strikes modify Siphoning Strike's base bonus damage but not the bonus damage from the stacks.

luckmallory1 votes

No lol, your W as Nasus is a direct counter to auto attack reliant champs, not to mention if yi is their jungler you should have thornmail as nasus anyway. Yi would lose. Also Jax and Trundle would slam on sated yi

EndlessSorcerer1 votes

Highlander makes Yi immune to attack speed and movement speed slows for it's duration.

It has since around 3.13 or 3.14

In addition, much of Master Yi's damage comes from on-hit effects (Devourer, Skirmisher's Sabre, Wuju Style, Blade of the Ruined King) which isn't reflected by Thornmail (though BoRK might be now, not sure). At this point, much of the damage reflected by Thornmail will be based on Nasus' armor.

If Master Yi gets Ninja Tabi and times his Meditate to absorb one Q, then he should win easily if he has his ultimate available.

luckmallory1 votes

Nasus

item 3031 item 3031 item 3031 item 3031 item 3047 item 3143

If nasus has 600 stacks the above build will one shot him

EndlessSorcerer3 votes

First off, that is a horrible Nasus build. Siphoning Strike's bonus damage doesn't critically strike, so only the base autoattack benefits. This build also provides no attack speed or armor penetration for sustain damage and relies on Nasus' innate lifesteal. The only real synergy it has with his kit is that his ultimate provides bonus AD, but it doesn't even take advantage of that appropriately.

That build has no Armor Penetration and provides little health or armor. The attack speed and movement speed slow on Randuin's Omen will be wasted due to Highlander and much of Master Yi's damage is from on-hit effects instead of critical strikes.

Nasus' Siphoning Strike stacks do not critically strike, so it would only be the base autoattack that benefits. That build also gives him no sustain or attack speed, so Master Yi would be able to sustain through much of his damage if built appropriately.

Suppose Master Yi's build was along the following lines: item 3047 item 3718 item 3153 item 3143 item 3072 item 3026

Skirmisher's Sabre would reduce Nasus' damage by 20% for the duration of the fight, Blade of the Ruined King and Bloodthirster provide signficant healing between Qs, and Randuin's Omen/Ninja Tabi will reduce Nasus' damage signficantly due to his reliance on autoattacks.

Even if Master Yi doesn't use Meditate to reduce the damage of one Siphoning Strike by 50-70%, Nasus will still require multiple Siphoning Strikes to kill Master Yi. Even assuming Master Yi has no bonus armor, it would still take at least two hits. Since Master Yi has armor to reduce Nasus' damage and significant lifesteal, he should be able to sustain through a few additional hits by auto-attacking Nasus.

Highlander negates Wither outright. Nasus is essentially down a spell for the duration of Highlander.

In this case, most of Master Yi's damage comes from on-hit effects (Devourer, Blade of the Ruined King, Wuju Style) of mixed damage types. This makes it hard to build against it, even without factoring in Sated Devourer.

BluePolarizer1 votes

Yi builds a randuins. Nasus now cannot defeat Yi if the Yi player was blindfolded.

Source: I have 200+ games with a 60% win rate on Yi.

53436278DEL11 votes

you know i question riot these days lol do you not see his heal is % missing health like why if he gets enough CD his q will always be up and he will outsustain almost all champs and heal more based on how LOW he is...then there is aatrox lol crappy base heal not even missing health but wait darius is actually tanky and immobile but who cares he has a grab and a slow ( which just got bffed)

Dremiist1 votes

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you know i question riot these days lol do you not see his heal is % missing health like why if he gets enough CD his q will always be up and he will outsustain almost all champs and heal more based on how LOW he is...then there is aatrox lol crappy base heal not even missing health but wait darius is actually tanky and immobile but who cares he has a grab and a slow ( which just got bffed)

riot are dumb, come on Darius Q heal harder than MasterYi Aatrox DrMundoVolibear combined together gaining 200 bonus AD doing 1200 true damage with one single item item 3071 massive heal due to def healing mastery and item 3065 .

53436278DEL11 votes

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riot are dumb, come on darius Q heal harder than MasterYi and Aatrox DrMundo and Volibear combined together gaining 200 bonus AD doing 1200 true damage with one single item.

yup

GetBoomedOn1 votes

Yeah I've smashed Yis with nasus lategame with something around 550 stacks. If you got thornmail, sunfire, frozen, another high hp item, you're good. I don't even always build TriForce, somethimes I get Iceborn for even more tankyness, spellblade, and a harder spirit fire.

DominiEmpri1 votes

Darius needs a need but this is a poor example of why.

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