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Will mages ever get love???

CØulrophobia··2 votes·436 views

Playing mages feels like shit nowdays. We cant burst ADCs, cant kill assasins due to all the fancy shit they get. Tanks are able to oneshot us. I feel like we need serious mage item rework. Even after all these symptoms(prepare for loooong rant list) Riot refuses to give us anything.

-Mage items are so bad LB and Ahri started going Hextech Gunblade and switching to hybrid aa cancers. -80% Mages does not function without 30~40% CDR. -For every AP item there are at least 2 AD items to counter them. -Some items we need are not slot efficient lategame. A problem AD/Tank champs rarely face. Others on the other hand are not cost efficient.

  • Bad build paths. Little flexibility. -Items with mixed identity. -No spellvamp. Yes I am saying we need spellvamp, if AD champions can have Deaths Dance which is 10X more cancerous then spellvamp and lifesteal on top of that I want fking spellvamp. -Lets also not forget our unique passives require ACTUAL FULL ITEM to get into effect. A problem that does not happen to any other class of items. Why????. Zhonya is just a bunch of armor and ap until you pay for the recipe. However Hexdrinker is always 100% up the moment we have its main component. Morello is bunch of AP and Mana, but AD champs can have griveous wounds for just 900g without buying full item. Mages need to pay for Lyandry and Rylais to get unique passives however we have tiamat which gives passive immidiately. We need to pay for Voidstaff however adcs dont need to build full item to get their penetration. -We dont have a decent mastery that synergizes with our spells and spellcasting. -We have to pay for a lot of mana to use our abbilities while some other classes just keep spamming them without ever running out of it.

13 Comments

ReySolomon3 votes

I play AP champions so I say... BUFF AP ITEMS!

Its All Skillzz3 votes

i do feel ap items have been nerfed way to much, the ammount of raw ap in the game is fairly low i remember in like s5 playing ap ez with full build an fully stacked mejai i could see 1k-1100 ap and 1 shot the adc if i hit him with my R. now with full build i will see barely 600 ap and maybe break 700-750 if we have 2 infernals and maybe i will see 900 if i sell boots for anothjer ap item and have blue pot 3 infernals an baron. its just sad that amount of ap in the game is so low.

CØulrophobia2 votes

I agree. It feels impossible to break the 900 cap unless you are Veigar with stacked Mejais and Rabadons on 40th min.

Evil Yasuo2 votes

If mages get buffed then so should assassins. Our items keep getting gutted due to adc's and tanks abusing them. Also adc's do everything assassins do but better. Same with mages, mages do everything assassins do but better, faster with cc.

LightIsMyPath3 votes

We hate you but we are on the same boat in these difficult times.. Enjoy your duskblade till it last, it won't be long.

CØulrophobia1 votes

We need fuking 4th stat that is exclusive for assasins and change all assasins into that type. Something like Powercombo stat or shit like it. Im done having MF use duskblade and Yomuus and oneshot my entire team with 1 ult.

Handy Sandy 1 votes

As someone who has played a variety of mages I can say that

-Mage items are a bit bad, but morello makes up for a lot of it so I think that should be changed. It's pretty much the only powerspike for every single mage in the game and almost all of them build it.

-A lot of mages function without 30-40% CDR, such as Lux Anivia Taliyah Karthus Orianna, and even then they can get CDR easily with 6 CDR runes and the core item they should be rushing morello and Zhonya which can be optional.

-While there are AD items that counter AP items like merc treads and Hexdrinker, I have no problem poking opponents into kill range which brings me to another point

-Infinite mana if you're using your spells reasonably with Lost Chapter

-If mages are fine now (which they are according to a lot of winrates) then spellvamp would make them skyrocket. They're already hard enough to kill since they're the class that ends to have cc to protect themselves + Zhonya's along with range on their side.

-Unique passives? A lot of effects are already applied with our abilities like slows and roots, the unique passive simply isn't needed. The only one that is would be ones that provide us with mana (lost chapter) I do think that it's a bit unfair that grevious wounds is weaker on AP than AD though.

Many AD champions don't have waveclear at all. Pretty much every single mage...Well actually I can't think of one. Every single mage has waveclear, and doesn't need something like tiamat that they have to rely on to shove a wave.

-Deathfire and thunderlord's with stomraider's situationally is good enough on a lot of mages. There's not one mage that can't pick from one of these and say "I'm not satisfied!"

-You have to pay mana..But you have Lost Chapter. Again, if you're using spells reasonably then you shouldn't run out with that.

Doodlzzz1 votes

Orianna got some good sh*t going for her

FatedSaviour1 votes

i feel none of these problems as anivia, its worth waiting to full item for R zhonas to refresh my stun and get away with maybe a kill i dont get morel cuz i dont need it (sometimes i get last chapter), with the cc and burst we do our job can be bursting a target from save distance, then applying cc throughout teamfights

mages arent that bad, but a tiny bit of love seems suitable

Ventira1 votes

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i feel none of these problems as anivia, its worth waiting to full item for R zhonas to refresh my stun and get away with maybe a kill i dont get morel cuz i dont need it (sometimes i get last chapter), with the cc and burst we do our job can be bursting a target from save distance, then applying cc throughout teamfights

mages arent that bad, but a tiny bit of love seems suitable

Are you kidding me? I feel the burn the MOST on Anivia. Between her absolutely janky auto attack animation, her unbelievably high mana costs, her unbelievably slow Q speed...She feels like absolute shit to play, and this is coming from a former Anivia main.

I mean jesus christ, I had a match against syndra today and got utterly crushed because Syndra can actually spam her q's to hell and back!

FatedSaviour1 votes

considering how much punishment she can lash out, her mana costs are reasonable, especially if you get last chapter, elixir of sorcery, blue dragon, or blue buff, her Q is extremely powerful considering it can hit twice, applies a 1.5 sec cc and doubles E damage, i dont even feel her auto attack is janky, and im a current anivia main

Ventira1 votes

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considering how much punishment she can lash out, her mana costs are reasonable, especially if you get last chapter, elixir of sorcery, blue dragon, or blue buff, her Q is extremely powerful considering it can hit twice, applies a 1.5 sec cc and doubles E damage, i dont even feel her auto attack is janky, and im a current anivia main

Yes, Anivia can lash out a ton of punishment, but only if you managed to land her astronomically slow and easy to dodge Q, and I really don't consider her mana costs reasonable to the likes of say, Swain and Syndra, both of whom can cast their Q's multiple times without a dent in their mana bar.

FatedSaviour1 votes

maybe anivia isnt your cup of tea then, you used to main anivia, i can see why you stopped, she still does the job for me so i still play her, but if u can play whoever u main now better, you should,

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