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PBE Liandry's Torment

Mordepool··1 votes·3,210 views

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Liandrys Torment is most likely going to be gutted because Riot doesn't play thier own game. At least not the most unpopular part of thier game. MORDEKAISER.

So Mordekaiser now with the Liandry's Torment + Rylais (plus some AP) can kill any champion in the game at level 18

Now bear in mind Right now Morde can ult you, you can disengage for 10seconds and lifesteal/Regen the health you lost in Less than 10. Noone is really scared of his ult

Now they are terrified and Have 10 seconds to figure out how to live. Overtuned yes Thematically Fitting 100%

so Mordekaiser a champion for half his lifespan known as THEE Scariest Lategame Carry (seasons 1-3. 6V4 y'all)

And the rest of his Life as the Bug riddled failed rework. Who is only effective as a Midgame champion. Finally has a chance to Bring back the Sense of inspiring Terror in his victims like he used too.

AT LVL 18

I SAY LET MORDEKAISER BE A LATE GAME CHAMPION AGAIN!

(Tl:dr) tone back the power a bit on Liandry's Torment. Perhaps the interaction with Rylais And Let Mordekaiser be a late game champion again

Hell it's about damn time.

14 Comments

Malicious Metal3 votes

Well, I prefer champions who scale throughout the game and I detest those who spike mid game and become a detriment to their own team later on.

That being said, they did already lower the burn damage to 1.5 max hp as a base.

The direction of these ap changes is great though since it gives manaless AP champions a lot more toys to play with and liandries/guise's passive 10% ramping up damage increase does give it the feel of an "AP black cleaver" since it enables Ap bruisers.

Rexxiee1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Malicious Metal,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9KIBROzh,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-02-08T01:54:42.729+0000)

Well, I prefer champions who scale throughout the game and I detest those who spike mid game and become a detriment to their own team later on.

That being said, they did already lower the burn damage to 1.5 max hp as a base.

The direction of these ap changes is great though since it gives manaless AP champions a lot more toys to play with and liandries/guise's passive 10% ramping up damage increase does give it the feel of an "AP black cleaver" since it enables Ap bruisers.

even at 1.5% it still does on average 3 times as much damage as the old liandries (on squishies mind you, vs tanks its doing like 6x its current damage or more), its still batshit overpowered, and the old liandries was already a very good item, so i dont see the reason to just randomly multiply its power like that (other than to force ap/mages into broken status for the meta).

You guys should not want this, if they actually go live with that every ap dot/spammable champion (morde, singed, rumble, cass, ryze, etc etc etc) will recieve nerfs, trust me.

Malicious Metal1 votes

Honestly, I'd rather see more power put into its haunt passive.

Make it scale up to 15% increased damage over 8ish seconds and we're gucci. I think the Max hp damage is going to be extremely problematic on DoT champions like Brand, Malz and yes, even Mordekaiser.

Mordepool1 votes

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even at 1.5% it still does on average 3 times as much damage as the old liandries (on squishies mind you, vs tanks its doing like 6x its current damage or more), its still batshit overpowered, and the old liandries was already a very good item, so i dont see the reason to just randomly multiply its power like that (other than to force ap/mages into broken status for the meta).

You guys should not want this, if they actually go live with that every ap dot/spammable champion (morde, singed, rumble, cass, ryze, etc etc etc) will recieve nerfs, trust me.

This no no no I don't want this. A balanced item that Mordekaiser synergizes with better than everyone else. Yes I want that
Since he hasn't had one for a long time

Mordepool1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Malicious Metal,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9KIBROzh,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-02-08T01:54:42.729+0000)

Well, I prefer champions who scale throughout the game and I detest those who spike mid game and become a detriment to their own team later on.

That being said, they did already lower the burn damage to 1.5 max hp as a base.

The direction of these ap changes is great though since it gives manaless AP champions a lot more toys to play with and liandries/guise's passive 10% ramping up damage increase does give it the feel of an "AP black cleaver" since it enables Ap bruisers.

It's just the sad state of Mordes playrate I'm afraid. Thanks for calling attention to it though. Yikes would that have been embarrassing for Riot if that went Live

Malicious Metal1 votes

Mordekaiser's playrate is only going to get lower, and it's not because of power level. Some champions, despite being on the weaker side, always seem to have respectable play rates, which is because these champions appeal to a wider audience.

Mordekaiser doesn't really have that niche of an appeal if you look at him, it's just that he's horribly outdated. If he got a rework that preserves some of the cool aspects we love about Morde as well as giving him a visual polish he'd probably maintain a 5ish percent pick rate.

Colton1471 votes

Riot is copying mah Liandry's buff... https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/kLQoLzEI-some-ap-item-buffs

But without the true damage.

I love the new Liandry's though. <3

Mordepool1 votes

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Riot is copying mah Liandry's buff... https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/kLQoLzEI-some-ap-item-buffs

But without the true damage.

I love the new Liandry's though. <3

And the replacement is shit

Sorry I won't buy that, it's a useless item now.

Is it sooooooo hard to just let 1 thing in this game synergize with Morde.
Just 1

Raziel of Astora1 votes

I like how no one mentions how much this buffs Teemo too lol.

Mordepool1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Raziel of Astora,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9KIBROzh,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-02-13T06:54:40.802+0000)

I like how no one mentions how much this buffs Teemo too lol.

The loss of penetration hurts him. Gives his lane opponents a chance to sit on spectres cowl. For a bit while they build offensive. That's my 2 cents

Natedog19581 votes

Brand everyone forgets brand %max hp on %max hp

Mordepool1 votes

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Brand everyone forgets brand %max hp on %max hp

I don't. 3 ticks at 1% over 4 seconds= 12% his passive can stack up to 3 times so that's 36%/ from Lyandrais if he stacks it properly +12% from his passive. Which equals 48% max health damage.
Premitigation damage

Mordes ult 3 ticks at 1% over 10 seconds = 30%. +35%= 65%. Premitigation damage

Mig891 votes

Brand can keep his ticking a lot easier than Morde can and apply it in an AOE. Noones doubting Morde's ult will be strong but Brands ult/w/e can apply that massive damage in an area and if he lands the stun he can easily kill tanks now.

Mordepool1 votes

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Brand can keep his ticking a lot easier than Morde can and apply it in an AOE. Noones doubting Morde's ult will be strong but Brands ult/w/e can apply that massive damage in an area and if he lands the stun he can easily kill tanks now.

It's true I kinda expect to see nerfs after the dust settles. That or they change QSS back to cleansing dots

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