I dont understand 5.5

Tripsauce·3/11/2015, 10:07:47 PM·2 votes·1,495 views

-The new ap item only helps the already completely dominant, ap bursters and assassins. The only Dfg champ it does pretty much nothing for is veigar, who is the only one who got nerfed instead of buffed. -Nidalee traps, like she didnt do enough damage to squishies without being able to blown them up with traps now too -Why do you buff Nidalee, Xin, Shyvanna, Gragas, with decent buffs. While Skarner gets +2 dmg, and a buff to fracture not even worth mentioning because it still does 0 dmg at all levels against any sort tankiness. And GP only gets a bug fix. -I just want to underline the above and say wow can you play favourites with your champions more? Nidalee and Gragas are getting more attention, while GP only gets a bug fix to his nonexistent passive. Really if Bard wasnt coming this patch would be irredeemable.

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Arbiter of Taste3/11/2015, 10:30:35 PM2 votes

I can't speak to most of the things you said, however I can try to address some of them.

Nidalee traps. This is, in fact, a nerf. They are removing the %health from the traps, there by slowing her JG clear. Yes, you have a base damage increase, but (i am too lazy to do the number crunching) i am pretty sure that % damage loss is more substantial than the buff they gave her.

As for the skarner change, it has been a long time since i have been well versed with that little pokémon, but that slight buff should increase his initial clear speed a bit, making him hit 6 that much faster and become relevant that much faster. (also take into account they are nerfing a lot of jg camps overall).

Remember, they can't fix all jg champs at once. Often they have to make small changes and see how they impact the game before they can proceed without risking breaking too much.

I hope that was helpful

after i wrote this i realized you may have just been trying to rant, in which case, power to you and your complaining.

HamburgerJunior3/11/2015, 10:36:00 PM1 votes

I can't get behind these opinions. Nidalee has never been that hard to deal with. A snare will more often than not get nidalee killed. Spears aren't really that big of a deal anymore. Her jungle presence is unnecessarily strong though i do agree. It's like Nidalee is forbidden from being bad.

Eedat3/11/2015, 10:37:03 PM1 votes

The changes to Nidalee are a direct nerf, not a buff. They removed the massive %HP damage from them while increasing the base just a little. That being said, this was not what made her powerful and I'm a bit confused as to why they decided to change just that ability. I guess its going to slow her clear?

The new AP item can be effectively used on poke heavy champions as well as burst champions

Meep Man3/11/2015, 10:46:43 PM1 votes

People that benefit from Luden's Echo the most:

Ahri Akali Annie Cassiopeia Evelynn Fizz Karma Karthus Kassadin Katarina Leblanc Lux Malzahar Mordekaiser Nidalee Orianna Rumble Ryze Syndra Teemo Veigar Velkoz Viktor Xerath Ziggs Zilean Zyra

ProfDrDeath3/11/2015, 11:22:10 PM1 votes

Skarner :

That small Q buff is exactly what he needs - something to convince people to play him. He isn't really half as bad as people would like to make it seem.

Additionally, the E buff is the bigger one in here - it allows you to max E, which makes his ganks much more deadly.

Durzaka3/12/2015, 12:07:58 AM1 votes

Lunden Echo isnt meant to replace DFG for champions that use it. It is meant simply as another 120 AP burst item.

Agreed with nidalee nerf. It is meaningly.