I dont understand 5.5

Tripsauce·Mar 11, 2015·2 votes·1,495 views

-The new ap item only helps the already completely dominant, ap bursters and assassins. The only Dfg champ it does pretty much nothing for is veigar, who is the only one who got nerfed instead of buffed. -Nidalee traps, like she didnt do enough damage to squishies without being able to blown them up with traps now too -Why do you buff Nidalee, Xin, Shyvanna, Gragas, with decent buffs. While Skarner gets +2 dmg, and a buff to fracture not even worth mentioning because it still does 0 dmg at all levels against any sort tankiness. And GP only gets a bug fix. -I just want to underline the above and say wow can you play favourites with your champions more? Nidalee and Gragas are getting more attention, while GP only gets a bug fix to his nonexistent passive. Really if Bard wasnt coming this patch would be irredeemable.

13 Comments

Arbiter of TasteMar 11, 20152 votes

I can't speak to most of the things you said, however I can try to address some of them.

Nidalee traps. This is, in fact, a nerf. They are removing the %health from the traps, there by slowing her JG clear. Yes, you have a base damage increase, but (i am too lazy to do the number crunching) i am pretty sure that % damage loss is more substantial than the buff they gave her.

As for the skarner change, it has been a long time since i have been well versed with that little pokémon, but that slight buff should increase his initial clear speed a bit, making him hit 6 that much faster and become relevant that much faster. (also take into account they are nerfing a lot of jg camps overall).

Remember, they can't fix all jg champs at once. Often they have to make small changes and see how they impact the game before they can proceed without risking breaking too much.

I hope that was helpful

after i wrote this i realized you may have just been trying to rant, in which case, power to you and your complaining.

TripsauceMar 11, 20151 votes

I'm not ranting honest I just think this patch only gave meaningful power in places that were already strong

Maybe the Nid traps are a nerf to her clear time, and the % hp dmg nerfs her against tanks, but against squishy champions which is where she is already really strong the change will let her nuke carries that much quicker. Stepping on a nid trap with her nearby as a squishy is like a death sentence now.

And Skarner was already good at jungle clears, fighting champions is where he sucks, all they have ever done is make him more of a walking ult.

Xin didn't need buffs, if they were looking at GP they should have buffed him instead of Xin. His passive unnoticeable even by squishy champions, so the bug fix did nothing for him.

HamburgerJuniorMar 11, 20151 votes

I can't get behind these opinions. Nidalee has never been that hard to deal with. A snare will more often than not get nidalee killed. Spears aren't really that big of a deal anymore. Her jungle presence is unnecessarily strong though i do agree. It's like Nidalee is forbidden from being bad.

EedatMar 11, 20151 votes

The changes to Nidalee are a direct nerf, not a buff. They removed the massive %HP damage from them while increasing the base just a little. That being said, this was not what made her powerful and I'm a bit confused as to why they decided to change just that ability. I guess its going to slow her clear?

The new AP item can be effectively used on poke heavy champions as well as burst champions

TripsauceMar 11, 20151 votes

Anyone with ap can presumably buy it, but who benefits more Veigar who lost the most all around in the Dfg patches. Or Kat, and Ahri who both got buffs and are already super strong. Or Kennen who it fits perfectly and who lost nothing and is already great.

EedatMar 11, 20151 votes

Poke heavy champs benefit the most from the item actually.

Step 1) Poke the enemy and apply the bonus damage Step 2) Walk around in the back line and recharge it Step 3) Repeat steps 1 & 2

TripsauceMar 12, 20151 votes

I think it benefits champs who have little poke, but more burst. Take Kat for example, it adds more damage and wave clear to her dagger throw so she can probably poke you down enough to blow up with 2 daggers once she has it.

The Ruin SageMar 12, 20151 votes

it will be very interesting on AP Varus now

Meep ManMar 11, 20151 votes

People that benefit from Luden's Echo the most:

Ahri Akali Annie Cassiopeia Evelynn Fizz Karma Karthus Kassadin Katarina Leblanc Lux Malzahar Mordekaiser Nidalee Orianna Rumble Ryze Syndra Teemo Veigar Velkoz Viktor Xerath Ziggs Zilean Zyra

TripsauceMar 11, 20152 votes

No Kennen who it was basically tailor made for?

ProfDrDeathMar 11, 20151 votes

Skarner :

That small Q buff is exactly what he needs - something to convince people to play him. He isn't really half as bad as people would like to make it seem.

Additionally, the E buff is the bigger one in here - it allows you to max E, which makes his ganks much more deadly.

TripsauceMar 12, 20151 votes

It doesnt even do 200 base damage at max level. Nidalees "nerfed" trap still does more damage then skarners E