Caitlyn+Lux made me toxic.

An Draoi·4/21/2017, 4:27:53 AM·1 votes·710 views

This is probably a Q.Q post about what I percieve to be unhealthy gameplay.

I had an opposing ADC Caitlyn as Jhin and an opposing AP Lux with a lulu support.

I couldn't even leave tower.

Caitlyn and Lux push up to tower near instantly, and as Jhin I can't push back nearly at all at level 1.

Caitlyn instantly throws down a ton of traps around my tower, limiting my movement massively. I try to walk around them? Lux took E, and can cast it from brush all the way to tower.

Do I take poke and try to farm under tower?

I accidentally walked on a Cait trap. Lux Q/E, Cait headshot, instantly dead with Lulu shield and summoner heal.

This isn't healthy gameplay, at all.

Did I get counterpicked with Caitlyn? Maybe, I don't tend to do well against Caitlyn regardless. I have good and bad games, but this was r i d i c u l o u s.

Why is Caitlyn allowed to zone me out under my own tower?

If I could've destroyed Caitlyn's traps (or, as I've seen often, people suggest they expire rapidly while under tower similar to Azir soldiers), this lane wouldn't have made me feel toxic after playing. Lux wouldn't have been as big a deal; yeah maybe I'd get hit with one or two E's here or there, occasionally died if I got hit with a Q. Not have 60 CS at 20 minutes because I've been zoned under my tower and farming under tower as Jhin at level 4 is nearly impossible.

Am I toxic because I lost? No, I'm not amazing and routinely accept my losses and try to analyze where I made my mistakes at.

Where did I make a mistake here? Queuing? It feels like the only counterplay here is to ban Cait in the lobby or pray my jungler has amazing ganks.(To my own fault, I admit I should've banned Cait in this game. I was going to, but I was pressured to ban the new Xayah instead. My mistake, unfortunately)

I don't feel her traps is healthy gameplay since they_can't_ be countered. If I as Jhin place traps down? Get a control ward, or lens and then destroy them. Teemo (not really an ADC but lol) placed traps? Lens or control ward to break them. Nid? Shaco? Etc. I wouldn't even care if they were invisible, similar to other traps, and one would need vision to see them. It just literally feels like there is 0 counterplay to her.

tl;dr: I had a really, really shitty game against a Caitlyn and Lux, and while I personally believe this combo to be disgusting the point I made is that this would've been a fair lane if Caitlyn's kit (really her traps are what I take issue with) weren't unhealthy mechanics.

6 Comments

Limmie4/21/2017, 4:45:00 AM1 votes

Cait is a big counterpick to Jhin. Sivir conters Cait hard though.

AFilthyCaitMain4/21/2017, 4:45:51 AM1 votes

Caitlyn is SUPPOSED to be able to zone, thats part of her kit design. Also YES ask for ganks. NEITHER of them can handle ganks well if they cant land their abilities. They also cant handle burst well, so assassins are perfect here. Also Soraka makes that comp useless since theyre poke oriented. Playing passive all lane is an option, they both fall off if they cant snowball.

Myrkrvaldyr4/21/2017, 5:57:39 AM1 votes

Xayah is not ban worthy if you're Jhin, but Cait is. You made a mistake, lad. Never give in to peer pressure. Next time show them the middle finger, learn your match ups.

Calabok4/21/2017, 6:14:36 AM1 votes

i swim in rivers of tears