@Riot: What's with you & your fetish to constantly give Lux's ult cooldown refund buffs?

BeatzBoyFTW·Apr 5, 2018·53 votes·2,730 views

Why not just make her ult have a fixed 10 second cooldown or something? I don't see a difference in it.

51 Comments

ToppienApr 5, 201838 votes

the worst part is that lux is no longer saying "shh im charging my laser"

[sg-janna]

Rathar DashingApr 6, 20186 votes

Shh... I'm ch-DEMACIA~! [sg-lux]

TerozuApr 6, 20184 votes

Thats a joke that requires you to hit it 3 times.

Murl0ughApr 5, 201812 votes

Look up "constantly" then remove that word from your post.

CatastrophicApr 5, 20184 votes

See "Exaggeration"

It Hertz When IPApr 5, 20182 votes

I was going to suggest "hyperbole".

Colton147Apr 5, 201812 votes

Lux is mechanically intensive and has a high skill ceiling... She needs a very low cooldown on her ultimate.

BeatzBoyFTWApr 5, 20187 votes

After how many spammed balanced threads you've made, I'm inclined to believe you weren't serious about your comment.

Supreme Senpai69Apr 5, 201818 votes

It reads like you're being sarcastic, but she kind of is mechanically intensive with a high ceiling. You can spam buttons and do fine on Lux, which is disgusting. But to fully take advantage of her kit you need to weave autos between your abilities and ult a target with your passive on it.

Sucks you can press E and R on her and win the game at some elos but having a low floor doesn't mean you can't have a high ceiling.

Votable JesterApr 5, 20189 votes

Not to mention how difficult it is to hit your adc with her shield when they blow everything to dodge it.

SSShutTheDuckUpApr 6, 20184 votes

Well, I've seen people flashing away from alied Lux R, so it is not that surprising

I Main SwainApr 6, 20182 votes

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It reads like you're being sarcastic, but she kind of is mechanically intensive with a high ceiling. You can spam buttons and do fine on Lux, which is disgusting. But to fully take advantage of her kit you need to weave autos between your abilities and ult a target with your passive on it.

Sucks you can press E and R on her and win the game at some elos but having a low floor doesn't mean you can't have a high ceiling.

either way though having a high skill ceiling is a bad reason to buff a champion imo

Sun Wu RyuumokuApr 6, 20181 votes

don't know how intensive its with her hitbox

JhynxApr 5, 201810 votes

Because its totally fine to give a huge range 900 damage laser a 10 second cooldown.

50 second cooldown at lvl 3.

40% CDR makes that 30 seconds.

With Ultimate Hat thats another 15% making it a total of 55%, reducing it to 22.5 seconds, no kill required, normal gameplay.

If she gets a kill or assist 1.75 seconds after hitting someone with her ult, thats a 50% cooldown refund at lvl 3, reducing the cooldown to 11.25 seconds.

Say she has the mastery Cosmic Insight which gives her an extra 5% cooldown with a complete total of 60% and a 50% refund on kill.

Her ult can be as little as 10 seconds.

And thats with 500 base damage with 75% scaling, unable to get blocked by shields such as braum's with a range of 3340 (jhin ultimate is 3500 range...)

But nah thats fine cuz Talon has infinite escapes, walls dont exist for Kayn and Yasuo can get 100% crit damage with 3400 gold while having infinite dashes and a wall of WIND that can vanish even ornn's RAM GOD ultimate.

And dont forget to nerf ninja tabi's, we have to let those adc's DIE and not being able to defend a zed ulting on you. We dont want any counterplay here in this skill-based game

Right?

PhearBunnyApr 5, 201819 votes

it was never the ADCs job to survive Zed. Its your supports job to pick a champ that can protect you from an assassin, if there is an assassin.

JhynxApr 5, 20186 votes

But i'm in silver 3 soooooooo.....

thats not gonna happen

DoozkuApr 5, 20184 votes

But i'm in silver 3 soooooooo.....

There's your problem

PinkajApr 6, 20181 votes

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But i'm in silver 3 soooooooo.....

thats not gonna happen

I'm willing to do that if you want. My best supports happen to be the healy/shieldy ones.

Hexs FortuneApr 5, 20183 votes

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it was never the ADCs job to survive Zed. Its your supports job to pick a champ that can protect you from an assassin, if there is an assassin.

As ADC i'm still buying a GA + Bloodthirster+ Phantom Dancer to help survive Zed, even if it's not my "Job" by the book

Tails9016Apr 5, 20187 votes

it was never the non-tanks job to survive Zed.

FTFY

Johnaldinho1017Apr 6, 20181 votes

Hehe Xayah

DW DianaApr 5, 20182 votes

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Because its totally fine to give a huge range 900 damage laser a 10 second cooldown.

50 second cooldown at lvl 3.

40% CDR makes that 30 seconds.

With Ultimate Hat thats another 15% making it a total of 55%, reducing it to 22.5 seconds, no kill required, normal gameplay.

If she gets a kill or assist 1.75 seconds after hitting someone with her ult, thats a 50% cooldown refund at lvl 3, reducing the cooldown to 11.25 seconds.

Say she has the mastery Cosmic Insight which gives her an extra 5% cooldown with a complete total of 60% and a 50% refund on kill.

Her ult can be as little as 10 seconds.

And thats with 500 base damage with 75% scaling, unable to get blocked by shields such as braum's with a range of 3340 (jhin ultimate is 3500 range...)

But nah thats fine cuz Talon has infinite escapes, walls dont exist for Kayn and Yasuo can get 100% crit damage with 3400 gold while having infinite dashes and a wall of WIND that can vanish even ornn's RAM GOD ultimate.

And dont forget to nerf ninja tabi's, we have to let those adc's DIE and not being able to defend a zed ulting on you. We dont want any counterplay here in this skill-based game

Right?

You got it wrong, take the new presence of mind instead of cosmic insight. Every kill gives you 10% xD.

Did the same with nocturne and got his ult every 15 seconds, add phase rush, celerity and black cleaver to escape afterwards and it's game over for adc's.

the weeabooApr 5, 20181 votes

{quoted}

Because its totally fine to give a huge range 900 damage laser a 10 second cooldown.

50 second cooldown at lvl 3.

40% CDR makes that 30 seconds.

With Ultimate Hat thats another 15% making it a total of 55%, reducing it to 22.5 seconds, no kill required, normal gameplay.

If she gets a kill or assist 1.75 seconds after hitting someone with her ult, thats a 50% cooldown refund at lvl 3, reducing the cooldown to 11.25 seconds.

Say she has the mastery Cosmic Insight which gives her an extra 5% cooldown with a complete total of 60% and a 50% refund on kill.

Her ult can be as little as 10 seconds.

And thats with 500 base damage with 75% scaling, unable to get blocked by shields such as braum's with a range of 3340 (jhin ultimate is 3500 range...)

But nah thats fine cuz Talon has infinite escapes, walls dont exist for Kayn and Yasuo can get 100% crit damage with 3400 gold while having infinite dashes and a wall of WIND that can vanish even ornn's RAM GOD ultimate.

And dont forget to nerf ninja tabi's, we have to let those adc's DIE and not being able to defend a zed ulting on you. We dont want any counterplay here in this skill-based game

Right?

Funny how you angry about windwall but lids laser goes through it

DuskDaUmbreonApr 5, 20181 votes

Except Cosmic Insight is not factored after her reset. It's factored before.

And it's only when she'd have gotten a kill anyways.

All this means? That she can roam after killing her laner. And it should be up between won skirmishes.

RocketRelmApr 6, 20181 votes

That's not hot Ultimate Hat works. Ultimate Hat is multiplicative with normal CDR, not additive. 0.6x0.85=0.51, 1-0.51=0.49, 0.49-0.4=9%. Ultimate Hat on a character with 40% CDR gives the ultimate 9% more CDR total.

You get 53.25% total cdr on your ultimate if you have 45% cdr.

abca98Apr 5, 20187 votes

Balance team idea is "if its bad, it need more damage".

Pika FoxApr 6, 20186 votes

Because they cant really add power elsewhere into her kit easily, and she is absolutely garbage tier in higher ELO play. So theyre rewarding proper usage of her R with the high end lux fantasy of making multiple big R plays.

Literally the only downside of this buff is that ARAM becomes more hell.

AmWhaleIRLApr 5, 20184 votes

Because they have no idea what to do with her clearly.

SpearSharpApr 5, 20184 votes

The biggest change they made to lux is her voice lines

She used to say "Tactical decision summoner" when you select her in champion selection, now she says "Lets light it up"

TBH, i liked her old voice lines, cause it's less annoying, now my '3' button on my keyboard broke because of laugh spamming

marpatt11Apr 6, 20181 votes

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The biggest change they made to lux is her voice lines

She used to say "Tactical decision summoner" when you select her in champion selection, now she says "Lets light it up"

TBH, i liked her old voice lines, cause it's less annoying, now my '3' button on my keyboard broke because of laugh spamming

Wait you have 3 bound to laugh? DansGame

CosnirakApr 6, 20184 votes

It's not a 'fetish.' Two is not a pattern. It's fine to disagree with the change, but calling it something it isn't for no reason is stupid.

SilentBomberApr 6, 20183 votes

I'm not a Lux main and i do not play mid.However,i think the problem with her is her weak wave clear.With the cannon cs changes i think it is harder for her to farm.

No wonder she gets pushed all the time early game.Less cd in her ultimate is not the solution for a healthier balance.

saltranApr 6, 20183 votes

And she is still garbage

BlackFluxApr 5, 20182 votes

if it isn't broke, don't fix it, and do not try to break it, if you ask me lux shield needs a buff not the ult, i think it has a like 15 shield per skill point.

Supreme Senpai69Apr 5, 20181 votes

they are buffing her W significantly but there's no promise if it'll go through or not

5000000000000000Apr 5, 20182 votes

Just make the ult a basic ability and swap it with E xdd

NarsicusApr 5, 20182 votes

I assume it is because they want to lower her ult cooldown, but are trying to avoid the situation where it is just used to clear out waves from base and stall the game.

So they give you the cooldown reduction only when you use it for its 'intended' purpose as a burst combo finisher. You can still use it to clear if you have to but you don't get that sweet sweet cd reset.

SaiannaApr 5, 20181 votes

Long time ago Lux had her ult time flat nerfed a little bit.

Rathar DashingApr 5, 20186 votes

And she's been getting buffed ever since.

big boi edriApr 5, 20187 votes

Because she sucks~~

C9 Squeeky Apr 5, 20181 votes

pshh, maybe they should...

Z3SleeperApr 5, 20181 votes

P R E S E N C E O F M I N D

RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

DivewingApr 6, 20181 votes

They want her in LCS

Over InnsmouthApr 6, 20181 votes

Lux's ult screams arouse the balance team.

LOSINGISMYPRIDEApr 6, 20181 votes

well the refund result to reward the player hitting the enemy champion and get more charge of ult .

WolfeurApr 6, 20181 votes

I think they're trying to find a specific place for Lux. Like an artillery mage who works best in big, long teamfights. Kinda like a mage Demacian equivalent for Darius. Making her also a bit more different from a Xerath or a Vel'Koz.

IronHeartApr 6, 20181 votes

Its not Lux only, its CDR in general, its stupid, everyone has their ults in 30-50 seconds, and everyone has spells on 3-4 seconds cooldown, CDR needs to get capped at 30% , 45% is too much of on overkill

AirKingNeoApr 7, 20181 votes

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/M00VWROo-ninja-tabi-nerf-insight-for-those-who-are-unable-to-understand?comment=000300000000

Called it.

BeatzBoyFTWApr 7, 20181 votes

I was complaining about why is Lux is receiving repeated buffs on her ult alone. I never once said "Lux is broken & needs nerfs", so calm your "Im right lolol" tits.