Regarding LB and Zed...

Godhri··4 votes·659 views

I keep seeing posts day after day about how OP LB and Zed are. LB I can understand that she is a little OP but I don't see that being the case at all with Zed.

Anyway, that's not why I made this thread. I want to ask other players to help suggest possible champions that can be used against these two champions to help show that these two are not as OP as many people seem to think. Or if you disagree and think they are OP, please show me by suggesting what champion you would/have used and what happens/happened that makes them OP.

Here is a list of champions that I would use (and have used successfully) against Zed/LB: Ahri Katarina Lissandra Orianna Xerath Akali

If you don't know who your mid opponent will be, the safest pick will be: Orianna

In my opinion, Orianna is the most versatile of all the mid champions due to her extremely effective shield and passive Auto attack damage combo. You don't even need to level up her Q or W first as your shield, autos, low level Q and W will be enough to out trade anyone in lane. This is also assuming you know how to dodge abilities as they come as well. Just because your shield is up doesn't mean you can just take hits.

7 Comments

Umbral Light1 votes
  1. I think Zed countered Katarina but I might be wrong. Honestly I've played against Ahri Katarina and Lissandra as Zed and have defeated them successfully, though they might not have been experts/mains for those champs. Also, managed to go toe to toe with a LeBlanc and beat her (but again, possibly wasn't a Leblanc main)
Godhri1 votes

Zed definitely has the kit to wreck Ahri and Kat, but in that same line of reasoning, so does Ahri and Kat to wreck Zed. Kat is extremely mobile making it easy to avoid much of zed's damage and Ahri can easily charm zed if she learns the timing right for when he ults. I won't lie. For Ahri and Kat, the fight will be a close one but it is more advantageous for them imo.

I'm not sure at all how you beat a lissandra as Zed. It's like...virtually impossible or should be. Her entire kit wrecks anything melee.

Umbral Light1 votes

Yea but that just a one time thing with LB (though I'm not entirely sure, could be that I'm thinking of some other match and had them mixed up in my mind and I don't want to go searching through my match history....) Cause I'm well aware that I might be good with Zed now but I'm nothing special with him, not yet at least...

Tavish1 votes

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  1. I think Zed countered Katarina but I might be wrong. Honestly I've played against Ahri Katarina and Lissandra as Zed and have defeated them successfully, though they might not have been experts/mains for those champs. Also, managed to go toe to toe with a LeBlanc and beat her (but again, possibly wasn't a Leblanc main)

Zed LB is a skill match up, they both have similar amounts of poke and all-in potential.

As for Ahri, Zed usually does better than the new Ahri in lane, Zed has a lot of tools to dodge her charm, and as soon as she misses that, Zed is like a shark and Ahri is like a bleeding baby elephant stuck in the middle of the ocean. Ahri is still a relatively tough matchup though, when her ulti is up it's so damn hard to kill the fox.

Zed generally does better than Kat before she gets her first full item, after that all bets are off if Zed didn't capitalize on the time before it. But before that, Zed is just SOOO much stronger than Kat. She can't win the war of attrition because Zed has more poke, and is also manaless, as soon she burns her e for CSing, Zed can just blow her up.

Zed vs Liss is another story, I hate this matchup. God does it suck, especially when the smart ones take exhaust too. You must have just been better than them.

Umbral Light1 votes

Yea but that just a one time thing with LB (though I'm not entirely sure, could be that I'm thinking of some other match and had them mixed up in my mind and I don't want to go searching through my match history....) Cause I'm well aware that I might be good with Zed now but I'm nothing special with him, not yet at least...

DatPikachuTho1 votes

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Kitten of Evil1 votes

You just have to play carefully. I've managed to hold my own against either of them (that is, end laning phase 0/0... because you can't ever gank a Leblanc or a Zed, they'll just W away) as TwistedFate Anivia Velkoz ... the key is rushing defensive itemization and grabbing summoner 3. A cloth+5 start against Zed works great, a flask works okay against Leblanc, but not as well, unfortunately, since she can start chunking you down at level 2.

I despise assassins so much that I've actually just taken to running summoner 4 summoner 3 whenever I mid. It has the added benefit of thwarting jungle ganks, though sometimes not having summoner 14 makes you miss a kill.

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