Stop throwing me into premade teams.

Raoul·5/17/2019, 8:05:46 PM·36 votes·12,389 views

These are the most toxic games I ever experience, when i get to be the random in a 4 man premade. And its never even fair, I get the 4 man who just queued together to goof around, vs the premades who work together, have voicechat etc...

And they never surrender, they always start goofing even harder because hey, for them, its fun, they have 3 buddies around, they have a good laugh... but for the one random, thats just pure pain...

Make it so either you queue with 2 or 5, nothing in between. Want to queue with 3 buddies? Go find one more guy instead of ruining the game for one poor random dude!

54 Comments

Anatera5/17/2019, 9:03:44 PM16 votes

Allow me to predict a handful of the responses you will get to this subject specifically from people who don't know jack:

"DURR IF YOU DONT QUEUE WITH PREMADES THE QUEUE WILL BE TOO LONG"

"HURR MATCHMAKING IS UNBIASED AND YOU'RE GETTING PREMADES AS GOOD AS THE OTHER TEAM'S"

"NURR IT'S YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO BEHAVE LIKE A CIVILIZED HUMAN, BUT THE OTHER 4 DON'T HAVE TO BECAUSE THEY CAN GANG UP ON YOU AND REPORT YOU."

Love it.

Absolut Garen5/18/2019, 10:29:44 PM6 votes

The rando into a 4-man premade always feels trolled. really, double-trolled because 1) by his own team (even if they aren't trolling, it's isolating to be the odd one), and 2) hey, this isn't fair! I entered soloq (in norms, but still), so why am I having to face a full premade enemy?!

Whenever I play with a 4-man, I always post our Discord channel in champ select and advise that we ARE a 4q. (It's the least that I can do.) (Occasionally, I am pleased when the I am the rando and the host team offers THEIR Discord.)

Absolut Garen5/18/2019, 10:32:40 PM6 votes

We could also offer a separate queuing option for those who wish to queue up with a 4-man (or at least are ok with it).

Soloq should be just for solo play.

Ackelope5/17/2019, 11:12:57 PM5 votes

honestly? I hate this idea. I don't mind it in ranked flex since it's a more serious gamemode in general, but sometimes there are 3 people that I know from a friend group that I want to play with, and I'm not going to feel especially enthused trying to find some fucker to tag along who will essentially be in the same spot that you find yourself in here, but only ceremonially. Our group only tries out weird shit and fucks around when we actually have a 5-man. Of course, our group having acceptable human behaviour doesn't mean that every other group will.

if anything, the report system should know when reports all come at a singled out person from a premade of 4 and understand that bias, and really, it'd be great to have a more in-depth and personal review system for reports in general to be able to catch the 4-man premades that actually are toxic.

ModAcademy Kayn5/18/2019, 1:32:30 AM4 votes

Ignoring Anatera's strawman down below, or up above technically, yeah sometimes those times suck. However, how many times have they not? How many times have you teamed up with a 4 man who've played the game seriously? How many times have you not even realized that they were a 4 man at all? I get that those occasional games can suck, but that doesn't vilify every other 4-man who doesn't do those things.

14daysuspensionk5/18/2019, 8:12:45 AM3 votes

Well I know you might not like it and probably feel like you're thrown into them too often, but what other choice does Riot have? A 4 man premade HAS to be queued with someone, you can't just but 4 or less people in one team, sorry, not trying to be a docuhe put that's just how it is.

teto god supp5/18/2019, 12:36:17 AM3 votes

Fucking love ranked games when duo says "These arent our mains, we are just doing this for fun" building some rediculous build and going 0/8/1.

I honestly want to quit this game just because match making is so fucking bad.

u can win 6 in a row and get into promos, and then get the worst players u've seen in days on ur team all at once.

Tuskai5/18/2019, 3:16:34 AM2 votes

I think this is like, 50% observer bias. Being the Solo in the premade group can sometimes go great, because you have teammates that are magically coordinated with or without your input, and barring that, you might never even know you're explicitly with a premade unless they share tags or point it out.

But on the other hand, yeah, when Premades get toxic, they tend to be REALLY toxic in comparison to normal toxicity. Last night i had a match where the premade mid and duo bot fed their lanes and started to the insult jungler (Ekko), by calling him useless and referring to him as "The Black.", and when that failed to get a rise, they started spelling out the N-word in team chat, by each member putting in two of the letters.

You really don't get much middle ground in premade teams, because it's either, no one in the group is toxic, because non-toxic players hate toxic players, even if they're friends (I never play league with my friends who get toxic in this game. It's too embarrassing having to constantly apologize for them AND then try and calm them down.) Or they support toxicity as a group and all-in on the toxic behavior when one member starts.

Mokiller55/19/2019, 12:04:32 AM1 votes

The mute button..... Absolute bliss against 4 man premade, they play their game and I play mine.

Pika Fox5/18/2019, 2:05:23 PM1 votes

You.... Do realize how matchmaking works, right? What do you want, 4 man premades to go 4v5 into a game?.....

Warpes5/18/2019, 2:54:55 PM1 votes

Are we talking about normals here?.. because flex doesn't allow for 4 mans anymore... and if it's normals, who gives a fuck, you're not losing lp?

tho.. the last game you played when this was made, as with all your games, was solo queue ranked... you do realize that solo queue doesn't allow 4 mans either right? and those 4 other players you're yelling at for "goofing off" in a premade certainly don't know each other and see you as the angry troll...

church arson5/18/2019, 3:56:13 PM1 votes

In my experience, the duos and trios I encounter are quite nice. One of them usually carries. I end up adding them and we play several times together.

Never had a match with a 4 man premade though, at least none that I'm aware of.

Just because I'm not going through it, doesn't mean the problem doesn't exist though. I'm not trying to invalidate your issues.

Dyrreah5/18/2019, 4:09:15 PM1 votes

Oh the moment when you get 4 inting fucks who flame you and question mark ping you all game and type in cyrillian. Priceless. I can't even fucking report them, Rito is gonna be like yeah we don't understand them either. Like you know they are flaming you, it's obv but what can you do. So I built ad on sona since I had 5 kills out of 7. I

Venging Angel5/18/2019, 4:11:43 PM1 votes

For me, the past 2 months in normals have been consistently random pugs versus 4-5 man premades. It's been ridiculous. Yes we get the message per Riot's meme: "League is more fun with friends." But for heaven's sake, also get the message that a large amount of your playerbase just want to play the game alone. (We get sick of the kid screaming at their sister to get out of the room. We are tired of the pothead who belches regularly into his mike." Stop trying to tilt the game so heavily in favour of the groups. PLEASE.

radetari5/18/2019, 5:55:38 PM1 votes

Thats how I got banned Got flamed by 3 premades ( i guess they were premades because they all flamed me in the same way) I defended myself and got chat restricted for 10 games I guess you are supposed to keep your mouth shut in that situation, but when frustration kicks in, some things are jsut impossible If i had muted them while still being chill it wouldnt have happened, thats why i do that shit now