Fellow jungler's, this is a problem that no one seems to want to address. So i will.

Buffs / Camps Im not here to rant, im just going to lay out situations so people can understand when you **really **need a buff vs just taking it and at least letting us smite it in order to get the best use of it.

First of all let me tell you what the buffs do, if you already dont know.

• Gromp- This guy when smite just gives a jungler a mini thornmail
• Wolves-I usually smite this early game if its pretty even so that if for some reason decides shes going to take one of my camps for her mark, or just wants to do a LC$ big gank on mid then you can at least know.
• Blue Buff- Now when i smite this i get 25% of my maximum mana back, if killed it gives you an increase mana regen.
• Raptors - This camp simply gives my vision when smite
• Red Buff- Gives you a slow, along with true damage tick that also heals you.
• Krugs- This just lets me stun every 4th hit, also very good on aa based champions ex

For the sake of completion I will add that smiting Krugs gives you major true damage on your next auto against a tower (in the mid game it's about 250 true damage).

Now lets address if you _really _ need it

If your an AP mid, then by all means my blue buff is your blue buff along with my raptors and wolves, this is especially good if we take mid before the 13-15 minute mark because a lot of times ill see people get an early snowball but cannot rotate/extend and die constantly.

If your a melee mid, then i'd **recommend **taking red buff and raptors along with wolves. Most of the melee mid champions usually have no version of cc there fore you're more susceptible to getting ganked by thier mid jungler and support a lot often even if you have escapes. With that being said un less rotating to a potential team fight, just stay back untill we start the mid game and dont DIE for free..

I just wanted to get this off my chest, because many of times is see the wrong champs taking buffs that they dont need.. Now i understand that this can very because if i had something like a mid, then i wouldn't mind giving him my red/blue or both. However if you're behind you cant really expect me to give you buffs if you severely get outplayed every time or seem to be prone to getting ganked ( I've seen this before).

Also with the fact that from my previous thread http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/iIPNQMlP-psa-as-a-jungler-im-not-obligated-to-give-you-my-buffs people seemed to have perceived that im stingy with my buffs, when i really just wanted to address when you **really **need it and you just want it, because after all i just want to win i mean dont we all?