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I'm diamond (I know thats not special) and playing in silver atm on a smurf.

IonChamber·7/8/2016, 4:24:00 PM·6 votes·926 views

Here are my observations. Maybe it will help someone.

(for the record it's a pretty fun, relaxing environment to try out new champions.)

There is so much early fighting in all lanes nonstop that no one gets much CS. Even if you think you want to farm it up, it's virtually impossible because you HAVE to respond to all the aggression on both sides or you will fall behind. There almost isn't a laning phase compared to diamond. For this reason, late game scaling champions are much weaker.

Jungling seems to be ridiculously OP. Nobody wards, and if you bring a little CC with the laner or the jungle, you can continuously get early kills basically for free. This leads into a massive snowball. First blood is usually at 3 minutes or before. That same laner that dies first will then usually die again soon.

There is little to no care for objectives before final pushes are started. People don't wan't to defend turrets or take dragons. I have solod the dragons many times as adc and mid lane (depending on my champion and performance) without the jungle ever responding.

Duo/Trio queues are ten times more toxic. They only play together and refuse to even acknowledge another player. This isn't quite so bad in higher rated games.

The picks are disgusting. Every game has yi, tryndamere, garen, shaco, and yasuo. I see so many champions that I haven't seen in ages. I'm not sure why people are so dedicated to these champions that offer so little.

ADC is a lot harder to play (I'm not an adc main and I'm bad at it so this may be biased) because you constantly get odd support picks that have no clue what they're doing, like sion support or lee support or rammus support. It makes for an odd lane. Supports also don't ward very often here.

There are a number of players you will encounter that aren't just having bad games. They belong in bronze 5 but are somehow a bit higher? Not too surprising I guess. They do things like build full damage top laners that are actually tanks when losing, and do less damage than, say, an alistar support. They usually end a long game with around 10k or less, and would be better for the team if they went afk as they generally feed through the nose. You never know which team this player will be on, but he's In most games.

No one even tries to pay any attention to what the team needs composition wise. You could have an ap carry mid, but that jungle is going to lock YI and then top is going to lock Quinn. It only matters if the game gets late into teamfighting, which happens more often than it should given how much the games snowball in one direction.

Which brings me to my final point that ties with the last and a previous, no one pushes objectives or groups before like 30 minutes it's a given rule. You cant force the people to group. You cant force people to take free objectives. It's very peculiar.

Anyways I found it odd. I'm actually struggling to carry quite a lot and doing incredibly poorly (in my defense I'm learning new champions and some of them aren't champions that carry well such as kassadin (who is also a late game champion.)) Don't ask me why I'm learning kassadin it seems like a bad idea. I guess it's just fun.

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100T iLL7/9/2016, 1:04:29 AM2 votes

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Here are my observations. Maybe it will help someone.

(for the record it's a pretty fun, relaxing environment to try out new champions.)

There is so much early fighting in all lanes nonstop that no one gets much CS. Even if you think you want to farm it up, it's virtually impossible because you HAVE to respond to all the aggression on both sides or you will fall behind. There almost isn't a laning phase compared to diamond. For this reason, late game scaling champions are much weaker.

First blood is usually at 3 minutes or before. That same laner that dies first will then usually die again soon.

There is little to no care for objectives before final pushes are started. People don't wan't to defend turrets or take dragons. I have solod the dragons many times as adc and mid lane (depending on my champion and performance) without the jungle ever responding.

Duo/Trio queues are ten times more toxic. They only play together and refuse to even acknowledge another player. This isn't quite so bad in higher rated games.

The picks are disgusting. Every game has yi, tryndamere, garen, shaco, and yasuo. I see so many champions that I haven't seen in ages. I'm not sure why people are so dedicated to these champions that offer so little.

ADC is a lot harder to play (I'm not an adc main and I'm bad at it so this may be biased) because you constantly get odd support picks that have no clue what they're doing, like sion support or lee support or rammus support. It makes for an odd lane. Supports also don't ward very often here.

There are a number of players you will encounter that aren't just having bad games. They belong in bronze 5 but are somehow a bit higher? Not too surprising I guess. They do things like build full damage top laners that are actually tanks when losing, and do less damage than, say, an alistar support. They usually end a long game with around 10k or less, and would be better for the team if they went afk as they generally feed through the nose. You never know which team this player will be on, but he's In most games.

No one even tries to pay any attention to what the team needs composition wise. You could have an ap carry mid, but that jungle is going to lock YI and then top is going to lock Quinn. It only matters if the game gets late into teamfighting, which happens more often than it should given how much the games snowball in one direction.

Which brings me to my final point that ties with the last and a previous, no one pushes objectives or groups before like 30 minutes it's a given rule. You cant force the people to group. You cant force people to take free objectives. It's very peculiar.

the only thing that doesn't sound accurate is jungling, people do ward. The problem is THEY DON'T LISTEN OR ACKNOWLEDGE THEY ARE IN DANGER BECAUSE THEY WANT ONE MORE CREEP OR TUNNEL VISION ON THE ENEMY.

HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLY SHIT

the amount of ignored pings and chat messages when playing in ranked is fucking stupid.

Scary Door7/8/2016, 4:32:07 PM1 votes

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Which brings me to my final point that ties with the last and a previous, no one pushes objectives or groups before like 30 minutes it's a given rule. You cant force the people to group. You cant force people to take free objectives. It's very peculiar.

Some points in your assessment I didn't agree with, however this right here is 100 percent accurate. If there's one thing about low-mid Elo games; Bronze-Gold that would make all the difference in the world, it's grouping!

So many people get obsessed with chasing kills or getting a pick on someone that they won't just group up, force a fight and potentially end the game. By far this is the most frustrating aspect of Bronze-Gold.

I've seen plenty of Bronze, Silver and Gold players that actually have good mechanics (last hitting, positioning, etc), but their decision making and ability to understand game situations is usually very lackluster and why they are in the Elo that they are. The irony is that grouping and pushing objectives literally takes no effort, it's the easiest aspect of the game. Oh well.

CaptnJakSparrow7/8/2016, 5:09:07 PM1 votes

Honestly if you want to win a silver game.

Just split push top.

IonChamber7/8/2016, 5:13:09 PM1 votes

Yuck. I don't find that fun. I am playing to have fun right now instead of spamming my mains for wins and learning new champions. That must be why trynd and yas and yi are so damn common.

ff4sk7/8/2016, 6:26:54 PM1 votes

Duo/Trio queues are ten times more toxic. They only play together and refuse to even acknowledge another player. This isn't quite so bad in higher rated games.

Welcome to lower elo.

TenshouSNK7/9/2016, 12:52:26 AM1 votes

I have question for diamond. How should Quinn be played as in diamond?