"we have a tank meta"
Enemy team, Riven, yi, ezreal, sivir lulu....
Yea sure, ad champs aren't over powered right now. Its the tanks.
Enemy team, Riven, yi, ezreal, sivir lulu....
Yea sure, ad champs aren't over powered right now. Its the tanks.
= tank tho hehe
you're wrong, he's a juggernaut
hehe
to be precise, I think kog is an early game lane bully late game scaling mid game spiking assassin high range burst mage control mage juggernaut + tank marksman atm.
hehe
now if i'm being serious, Kog isn' t a lane bully his early game isn't garbage, that's all, but he can't bully people, just answer to poke with a strong poke on his own (W) and is safe with doran shield and warlord
he lane bullies me once he has a
tho xd
Full on invincibility from a tank support.
Kills someone that isn't a tank.
Tries to use sarcasm.
[zombie-brand-facepalm]
Full on invincibility from a tank support.
are you seriously **** to think that i would have died without taric ult?
Kills someone that isn't a tank.
more like run into 1v5 like a fcktard sustain every damage he takes, and burns everything from 710 range
Tries to use sarcasm.
hehe xd
You out-sustained the damage...because you were FULLY INVINCIBLE, given you had invincibility from your tank support.
And when tanks are strong, guess who else is strong? Late game hyper carries. Kog, Trist, Jinx if she wasn't still nerfed into a crater, Vayne when Riot finally gets her out of that crater she was nerfed into, Twitch...champs like that.
As a side note, I'm kinda tired of being hostile towards you. Until further notice, I'm gonna just let bygones be bygones. But yeah, this vid wasn't a good vid to get your point across.
You out-sustained the damage...because you were FULLY INVINCIBLE, given you had invincibility from your tank support.
i outsustained the damage? j4 was stunned LUL and he built cinderhulk, he had 0 damage at all i still had heal i wouldn't have died from anything
And when tanks are strong, guess who else is strong? Late game hyper carries. Kog, Trist, Jinx if she wasn't still nerfed into a crater, Vayne when Riot finally gets her out of that crater she was nerfed into, Twitch...champs like that.
we had 0 tanks in our team, taric was squishy af cuz he rushed ardent we had fiddle and ryze, only "tanky" champ was renekton with black cleaver and stoneplate, he wasn't even here
they had Sion and j4, and they still lost
cuz kog is bullshit
But yeah, this vid wasn't a good vid to get your point across.
https://youtu.be/mfSYfElHxr0?t=299
and this one aint? xd? yeah kog is balanced
710 range juggernaut tank is balanced
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i outsustained the damage? j4 was stunned LUL and he built cinderhulk, he had 0 damage at all i still had heal i wouldn't have died from anything
Well, let's put it like this:
It was 33 minutes into the game...so late game. Assuming you're good at the game, which despite venomous hissing and rattling from days past, I'd wholeheartedly believe, you were well into your build as a hyper-carry pick.
J4 jumped straight into a hyper carry by himself + didn't build much damage (your build has some hp and some mr, no armor, but you even said he went Cinderhulk) + missed his knock up. Your team being there was insurance, but just by virtue of you performing well up to that point and the disservice he did himself with his build/missed skill shot, he was pretty dead the moment he hit R.
With this all in place...honestly, Kog's kinda always been like this ever since I could remember. When Kog's on items he can wrap a game up just by not dying for a few minutes. At 33 minutes, without being behind, that's Kog's time to start pulling ahead. I'm not surprised by it.
we had 0 tanks in our team, taric was squishy af cuz he rushed ardent
Fair.
we had fiddle and ryze, only "tanky" champ was renekton with black cleaver and stoneplate, he wasn't even here
Fair.
they had Sion and j4, and they still lost
Fair, but it's also fair to note that J4 built for defenses rather than for diving (not sure why), and Kog is designed to eventually eat away people who do just that. You could say that you counter-picked the current meta with the Kog pick.
cuz kog is bullshit
I mean, at 33 minutes, any hyper-carry that didn't feed except Jinx is gonna be pretty bullshit. (RiP my home girl before the current home girl.)
yeah kog is balanced
710 range juggernaut tank is balanced
It's more him abusing Runaan's, Censer, his own passive, and Ruined King with Phantom Hit than it is "710 ranged Juggernaut". Phantom Hit procs on RK gives him double the life steal from the passive bonus damage on every other hit, and he's also getting protection from Lulu.
But yeah, Kog's been a problem for a while now when it comes to his overall balance. He's either too bleh or too ridiculous. Been that way for a long time, and that's why they tried changing him a year ago...much good that did.
Sometimes its nice not being in high enough ELO where people cant coordinate to do this lol. Its rare enough down here for people to follow up on a blatantly obvious wombo combo. Im glad nobody knows how to use kog'maw down here because if i ran into shit like this regularly I wouldnt be a happy camper. Pretty sure your video is fake because malicious metal isnt playing huedekaiser.
Pretty sure your video is fake because malicious metal isnt playing huedekaiser.
it was a normal draft mode game, i wanted to show him how kog was just retarded in high elo, and i did it, you can ask him what he thinks about kog now
https://i.gyazo.com/9bde11c9ede6db31fb03f904dd5b1874.png
all high elo players build kog like a bruiser he cannot die, watch deft playing him Kog builds frozen mallet and witsend/maw+tabi and sell it for GA in late game he gets armor/mr/hp, frozen mallet slow, and shred everyone while draintanking with censer+BORK+maw lifesteal+ in aoe with runan+x2 with guinsoo
Kog is a 710 range juggernaut
he's pick/ban in high elo
He's legitimately disgusting.
Zero effort required while you just right click and drain tank everything they throw at you. And people are complaining about Draven with Death's dance.
someone hacked your account and played taric. might wanna check that out lol
I play a lot of Taric as of late. Mostly because SOMEONE has to play Support when we queue as 5
why "has to" support is best role tbh. sit back and enjoy the W hehe
Oh i believe you. My point was, down here in the plebs, kog is meh because coordination is extremely rare XD
Don't give Diamond too much credit. It isn't THAT sunshine and rainbows.
Tanks are spammed in 3 out of the 5 positions in the map, meanwhile 5~6+ tanks per game in competitive.
"its not a tank meta because i played vs yi jungle in my last game"
LUL
Tanks are spammed in 3 out of the 5 positions in the map, meanwhile 5~6+ tanks per game in competitive.
"its not a tank meta because i played vs yi jungle in my last game"
LUL
I wish that many tanks were the meta. That way, we can actually flame the the Top/Jungle who locked in Riven/Yi/whatever, and try to billet that job to the Autofilled Support.
but comp isn't low elo ecksdee
wtf MMr are you in. I see ad's in 3-4 roles...
it's a hyper carry meta
If we are in such an AD meta, why aren't people banning AD? http://www.lolking.net/champions
I like that draven is pretty much in the top 10 and even 5 in every single ranked tier.
almost as if there's a pattern about him...
a meta isn't defined by one champion.
a draven is defined by a draven.
Most
Effective
Tactics
Available
If people don't PLAY the meta, that doesn't mean it ISN'T the meta.
So I came into this thread and thought "damn, what a shitty comp".
And guess what. Riven got absolutely DESTROYED by Cho'Gath top (no surprise, it's a tank). Master Yi was useless, Ezreal died a ton to deal some damage and botlane lost to Thresh - who in my books is still a tank even though Riot recently created the "Catcher" class.
2 tanks >>>> 0 tanks, therefore OP won.