We havent gotten a health cost Champion since Aatrox.

Over Innsmouth··4 votes·531 views

Why is that?

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Jbels1 votes

I feel like this is because they are so hard to balance. Look at Vlad, Morde, and Aatrox. Their kits make it so they are either feel super broken to play against, or feel super weak. Mundo is the exception. For some reason, he actually worked out pretty well

Tyrone Lannister1 votes

Mostly because he doesnt deal boat loads of damage.

Guanxi2 votes

Zac has insane base stats, no idea what you're talking about. Also, his ganking potential level 3 is nuts

TehNACHO1 votes

...Mundo?

Sahn Uzal1 votes

Zac worked out pretty well aswell.

XxxLumberJackxxX1 votes

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I feel like this is because they are so hard to balance. Look at Vlad, Morde, and Aatrox. Their kits make it so they are either feel super broken to play against, or feel super weak. Mundo is the exception. For some reason, he actually worked out pretty well

Munfo is Weak

Placentas3 votes

Except when Mundo manages to snowball, then he doesn't die like at all and does a boat load of damage lol. I rarely see a Mundo actually snowball though.

Erockandroll2 votes

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I feel like this is because they are so hard to balance. Look at Vlad, Morde, and Aatrox. Their kits make it so they are either feel super broken to play against, or feel super weak. Mundo is the exception. For some reason, he actually worked out pretty well

I mean, just about any champ with a Health cost, has a pretty good means of gaining Health back. And inevitably fall into the role of a Juggernaut or Battle mage.

Also, because of their health costs instead of mana, they really don't have a good long term limiter. And their only short term limiter is their Cooldowns, which is easily mitigated by CDR. (Unlike say, energy champs who's energy limits how effective spell spamming becomes)

Also, I wouldn't necessarily say Mundo isn't oppressive. But it would feel like such, as he's not a drain tank, and his ability isn't in between kill or be killed.

MLDzXnRRR1 votes

Probably hard to balance. Atm, all health costs champions are garbage or potentially broken.

420 grams1 votes

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Probably hard to balance. Atm, all health costs champions are garbage or potentially broken.

Olaf? Mundo?

MLDzXnRRR1 votes

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Olaf? Mundo?

Olaf has 1 ability that costs health and he is considered not that great, because of all the mobility and damage creep over the years. Mundo is balanced on the weaker side, because there is no real reason to pick him over Poppy, Mao and friends, but he is pretty damn strong on Ascension to the point where the enemy team often rages against the Mundo pickers/

9 X1 votes

Because it would make for unhealthy gameplay obviously.

Placentas1 votes

Personally not a fan of playing HP cost champs. Maybe put a poll up and see if anyone would actually be into having another HP cost champ?

Guanxi1 votes

Replying to the statements below/above, I can't imagine what it would be like to balance a champion who's soul design is "heal what you've put out. " It would also be incredibly hard to not do the mistake of "remaking a champion" with that concept.

Big Lincoln1 votes

because having health costs guarantees that the champ will need a way to sustain it back, too

they wouldn't do or bring anything new

ChaddyFantome1 votes

and we haven't had an energy champ since Zed.

Riot is staying away from those mechanics because they don't wanna have to deal with the balance headache involved. Especially with Energy, since it not only works fundamentally different than every resource in the game including resource less champs, but its userss are all bound lorewise.

GULAG 4 U1 votes

Health cost champs tend to be cancer.

sit kid1 votes

Because Aatrox was a big success

Kr1sys1 votes

Because Aatrox

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