@Riot, Do you think Karma's passive is really justified?

Hi everyone,

I know it has been discussed before, but I haven't found Riot's input about it. Most of the skills that get their CD reduced by basic attacks, or that have something that interacts with skill CD's already include that feature within the same skill description (Master Yi, Trynd, Ezreal...). Katarina's case is different because her passive is more general and interacts with all her skills, therefore, but 's passive feels like it should just be inside Mantra's own description. It's like if Ezreal's passive was "

"Ezreal reduces all his CDs by X seconds every time Mystic Shot hits"

"Karma reduces Mantra's cooldown by X seconds every time she damages an enemy champion"

One text is included in the affected skill, one is a passive. You could argue that there are differences, but there are many other examples. Also, this whole thread is not trying to say by any means that Karma needs a buff. I think Karma is in a good state now and she's one of my favorite champions. But still, I feel like a passive should be something more general, independent, "extra?", not just something that could easily be included in another skill's text.

Perhaps the reason why this was done is because Karma's kit is already very complete and @Riot didn't want to add more to it. It's kind of understandable, but I think there could be better solutions. There are passives that could be added while taking something away from somewhere else. Say Shaco didn't have a passive before, but his damage was 10% more than now. You would hypothetically reduce his normal dmg by 10%, but then you added 20% more if he attacked from behind, making a unique and defining passive that didn't make him stronger directly.

Again, I love Karma already and I don't think she needs any change per se. Just a thought for tonight.

All the best to everyone,