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This shitty "let's give you dumbass teammates in your promos" matchmaking has to STOP

BeatzBoyFTW··52 votes·14,930 views

I was in my Gold 2 promos with 1 guaranteed win in Ranked Flex, so all I had to do is get one additional win to secure my place in Gold 1. To hopefully be able to make my matches feel smoother & safer to climb up, I had to request my Plat 2 friend to help out. This should sound easy to accomplish, right?

#NOPE.

https://imgur.com/VGQ9zCx

1st match of my promos, I secured myself Urgot top to be able to be the carry of the team, while my friend secured himself Kha'zix to help out. Instead of having a pleasant simple game, we ended up having triple dumbasses who does nothing but gets caught out & dies multiple time, as you can see in this picture. My friend(Kha'zix) honestly attempted to help them so many times, and apparently, it was a huge mistake as he got brought down by these 3 idiots Riot decided to match me with.

https://imgur.com/FDRZeRf

In the next & final promos, I secured myself Aatrox being the better & stronger carry to the team. So far, the game has went smoothly. My friend(again Kha'zix) managed to snag up a bunch of kills, we could've ended the game in a jiffy. But again, nope. Riot this time decided to give us a bunch of teammates who has no clue on what they're doing, or even knowing wtf their champion does. Our mid lane Cass was so behind at that time, and what's more retarded is that when we manages to secured Baron, she decided to 1v5 the whole enemy team out of the blue. What's even more worse is that each of these dumbasses were Mastery 5/6/7...

Dear Riot, I honestly don't believe at all when you said we were matched "according to our MMR". And according to these pictures right here, I call your bullshit. This has got to stop. Either give us proper teammates in our promos, or do us a favor & remove promos since your aim was to spit at our climb.

69 Comments

abca9826 votes

Everytime I think about playing ranked games I see one of these posts.

Ceazaru6 votes

{quoted}

Everytime I think about playing ranked games I see one of these posts.

Trust me when I tell you to don’t play ranked. You’re not missing much. If you want remain sane and have league to remain a fun game to you then avoid it. You will see things and people that make you want to quit.

HaIlMonitor2 votes

Just relax when you play and try to improve. This guy is just tilted because he seems to think he deserves to be super high or something most likely.

OtterlyLost16 votes

You're playing flex? Why. The match making is notoriously bad in that. Everyone knows that flex match making is shit. You said one team had 3 diamonds; probably because they were a premade doing their placements together or had a lower mmr in ranked flex, allowing them to slip through.

BeatzBoyFTW3 votes

I'm Gold 1 in Solo, so I pref having my Flex catching up a lil. Plus, I'd rather wait 1 hour to go against a 3 Silver premade than this.

OtterlyLost4 votes

I wouldn't suggest it. I understand wanting to keep the two even but Flex is a dumpster fire for match making.

snëgl1 votes

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You're playing flex? Why. The match making is notoriously bad in that. Everyone knows that flex match making is shit. You said one team had 3 diamonds; probably because they were a premade doing their placements together or had a lower mmr in ranked flex, allowing them to slip through.

I'd rather play flex, I think the matchmaking is a lot better, I personally get matched with and against people at or above my own skill level. Also i was able to climb from D5 to D3 in flex in less than a week but in soloq I've been hardstuck D5 for several months now because D5 is the place where every game is simply a coin flip between you getting good or bad teammates. [slayer-jinx-unamused]

OtterlyLost3 votes

You hit the nail on the head though; you're diamond. Flex match making is trash if you're low elo because you end up facing people who have their D3 buddy playing with them, making the matches infinitely less fun. You say you get matched with people at your skill level. I saw I dont believe you in that every player in every game you played was D5 or higher.

snëgl1 votes

{quoted}

You hit the nail on the head though; you're diamond. Flex match making is trash if you're low elo because you end up facing people who have their D3 buddy playing with them, making the matches infinitely less fun. You say you get matched with people at your skill level. I saw I dont believe you in that every player in every game you played was D5 or higher.

Of course some of the players were lower rank, but at least they knew how to play the game or just got carried. But it isn't as much of a coinflip fiesta as it is in soloq

rlymydogisbetter1 votes

{quoted}

You're playing flex? Why. The match making is notoriously bad in that. Everyone knows that flex match making is shit. You said one team had 3 diamonds; probably because they were a premade doing their placements together or had a lower mmr in ranked flex, allowing them to slip through.

This isn't just flex. This happens very often in regular solo queue

EyesOfTheFox7 votes

Give us "proper teammates" says the guy who brings a plat player into a gold game.

01drago016 votes

Well, to be honest i think you are overreacting. Have you checked what elo they are and if yes can you give some information about it?

BeatzBoyFTW39 votes

https://imgur.com/o3fueBN https://imgur.com/xYq72wT

This says enough. I get a Silver 4 in one of my games, and the enemy gets to have 3 Diamonds on the other game.

DuskDaUmbreon8 votes

Okay. Now are those Diamonds actually Diamond in Flex, or just in solo?

Tarquin961 votes

solo.i dont think opgg show flex stats anzwhere except the profile page

Starcraft243ver8 votes

This says enough of your comprehension of the matchmaking.

Flex and soloQ matchmaking are not related.

toymonkeyjr2 votes

{quoted}

https://imgur.com/o3fueBN https://imgur.com/xYq72wT

This says enough. I get a Silver 4 in one of my games, and the enemy gets to have 3 Diamonds on the other game.

If you're good enough to be above the current elo you are in you will eventually climb out, even though it's a extremely painful journey it will happen eventually, it may even help to make a new account and start fresh because chances are you're better then when you first started ranked on that account. League of legends ranked system can never be perfect however if you aren't well above the elo you aren't probably gonna climb out unless you get really lucky, anyway everyone drops ranks even challenger players so just keep playing and have fun.

Heraimish2 votes

{quoted}

https://imgur.com/o3fueBN https://imgur.com/xYq72wT

This says enough. I get a Silver 4 in one of my games, and the enemy gets to have 3 Diamonds on the other game.

Flex queue matchmaking is determined by your flex queue MMR not your solo/duo queue MMR. So you shouldn't look at their solo/duo queue ranks

5050BS5 votes

8 times for me in tier promo and I get this. I just stopped playing ranked and will see how S9 changes are but unless they completely rework the MMR system and remove promos Im basically done with the game. ZERO reason to spend my "Play" time on a game that actively works against me.

If Teams were matched correctly it would be worth playing but for 3 seasons now its been shit.

GreenHydralisk5 votes

Well if your friend is plat then, your team needs some ppl with lower MMR to compensate. The average MMR of the 2 teams needs to be similar. What did you think would happen if you brought in your plat friend?

Starcraft243ver5 votes

So First game your friend fed the ennemy team, which allowed them to spit on every of your lanes. Second game you did ok to meh, 5/2 is ok, you didnt feed, but your farm is awfull, the 0/3 sivir might have been more usefull than you actually.

So with this amazing statistically representative sample of two games we can conclude that the matchmaking has no problem.

On the opposite based on this sentence :

What's even more worse is that each of these dumbasses were Mastery 5/6/7...

We can conclude that you have no clue what makes a good player in lol.

BeatzBoyFTW4 votes

{quoted}

So First game your friend fed the ennemy team, which allowed them to spit on every of your lanes. Second game you did ok to meh, 5/2 is ok, you didnt feed, but your farm is awfull, the 0/3 sivir might have been more usefull than you actually.

So with this amazing statistically representative sample of two games we can conclude that the matchmaking has no problem.

On the opposite based on this sentence :

We can conclude that you have no clue what makes a good player in lol.

Oh boy, one of those "it's not them, it's you" comments. Yeesh.

2464948645863 votes

{quoted}

Oh boy, one of those "it's not them, it's you" comments. Yeesh.

You just cant accept the facts, can you? Well, i mean im not the one whos stuck in gold where its super ez to get out of rofl.

I wouldnt be even surprised that you didnt do enough dmg with those kills

Ravenborn4 votes

Promos have to stop in general.

Eleshakai4 votes

People sometimes play badly. Even good players.

2464948645864 votes

hmm idk, maybe its not yor team but you are the reason of losing.

If you are good you will climb, if yo suck you wont. All those FLEX challenger and smurf had that “shitty” team of yours but they end up winning with 70%WR or so.

Dont blame your team, you belong where you belong.

Nich Ge4 votes

Just don't play ranked flex, gap in actual skill is so wide that its basically a normal game

CarameI Frappe4 votes

I just want Riot to remove promos. Why do these two games determine whether I’m worth going into the next tier / division?

Madsin253 votes

It's flex. Of course the matchmaking is going to be uneven. That's like me making a post about getting challenger soloq players in my ranked 3s games.

You make a similar post to this about soloq and you might have my attention.

Quiet Dude2 votes

Usually if you get a win streak to get into your promos, MMR compensates. Thats why when I hit my promos I take a break to play some norms before tilt/mandatory 50% winrate comes into play. Thats how I got back to plat 1.

To clarify, I understand the MMR doesnt cross with norms. But lets be honest- you get on a win streak, MMR compensates. I never do my promos the same day as getting them. I have to mentally prepare for that shit. Gonna do some norms until Im ready for the tryharding.

5050BS11 votes

That just shows how shit of a system they have built. Any collage student in a JAVA class can design a better system.

Saianna3 votes

you don't need java class for that. Actually you don't have to know any programming. Just a working brain, paper and a pencil. Let the smart folks code whatever you come up with.

yoshi27905 votes

don't normals and ranked have a different MMR?

Quiet Dude2 votes

Yea. But for me personally, I find when I play normals after getting to my promos, I feel a lot better if I play and win/lose those normal games rather than hit my promos and lose a bunch of times.

But TBH, I never do my promos right when I get them. I always do them on a different day at a different time. I always have better luck if I dont do promos on the same day as getting to them.

MultiLunchBox2 votes

I think that it would be easier if we had voice chat, because you cant stop playing the game just to explain something to your team thru chat. And you cant explain something with your pings. Its really dumb that this is a team game and you cant communicate with your team. Its a blind dumb luck every game, if feeders are in your team, you will lose no matter how you play. They made this so you have to play 100 games to get to a high rank.

Bob the Toastr2 votes

The dumbest part is they did implement voice chat but only with your party? That makes no sense, because if you're in a party with someone you're most likely going to be using a 3rd party chat (twitch, discord, etc.) and won't need the league voice. They should've made it for the whole team.

Saianna4 votes

voice chat doesn't work in like 90% 99% of games. Seriously noone bothers to use it, unless they feel like tell jokes. Also combine it with players that don't know the language (EUNE) and you'd only fall into the greatest screaming teen shitstorm.

What I noticed is bad players suually don't respond nor reply. They threat other players as ghosts, an air. They play the game as if they are 1 vs everyone. Mentallity of a potato. VC, nor normal chat simply won't fix it.

Saianna2 votes

If that'd soothe the pain of shitty ranged game, lemme tell you one thing: HOTS has it so much fucking worse.

All games in all game modes consists in 80% of apemen. Smart enough to simultaneously play and breathe without suffocating, but boooooooy oh boooooy. They fucking suck on a whole new level of sucking.

So appreciate the bad lol has, cause it could have been like HOTS :P

dankleave2 votes

Your friend can't kha

BeatzBoyFTW3 votes

Did you just look at the 1st picture and then completely ignored the 2nd one...?

3 Tears2 votes

{quoted}

I was in my Gold 2 promos with 1 guaranteed win in Ranked Flex, so all I had to do is get one additional win to secure my place in Gold 1. To hopefully be able to make my matches feel smoother & safer to climb up, I had to request my Plat 2 friend to help out. This should sound easy to accomplish, right?

#NOPE.

https://imgur.com/VGQ9zCx

1st match of my promos, I secured myself Urgot top to be able to be the carry of the team, while my friend secured himself Kha'zix to help out. Instead of having a pleasant simple game, we ended up having triple dumbasses who does nothing but gets caught out & dies multiple time, as you can see in this picture. My friend(Kha'zix) honestly attempted to help them so many times, and apparently, it was a huge mistake as he got brought down by these 3 idiots Riot decided to match me with.

https://imgur.com/FDRZeRf

In the next & final promos, I secured myself Aatrox being the better & stronger carry to the team. So far, the game has went smoothly. My friend(again Kha'zix) managed to snag up a bunch of kills, we could've ended the game in a jiffy. But again, nope. Riot this time decided to give us a bunch of teammates who has no clue on what they're doing, or even knowing wtf their champion does. Our mid lane Cass was so behind at that time, and what's more retarded is that when we manages to secured Baron, she decided to 1v5 the whole enemy team out of the blue. What's even more worse is that each of these dumbasses were Mastery 5/6/7...

Dear Riot, I honestly don't believe at all when you said we were matched "according to our MMR". And according to these pictures right here, I call your bullshit. This has got to stop. Either give us proper teammates in our promos, or do us a favor & remove promos since your aim was to spit at our climb.

That's right matchmaking has the ability to predict the future.

Revert Skarner2 votes

When you are in promos, it should only que you with other people also in promos or winning streaks.

BestPudgeNA2 votes

{quoted}

I was in my Gold 2 promos with 1 guaranteed win in Ranked Flex, Ranked Flex, Flex,

Found your problem

chipndip12 votes

If your duo and you got 19 kills and managed to lose, maybe your duo shouldn't play K6 when you play early game top laners like Aatrox?

To boot, when you were Urgot, your duo fed as hard as the randoms did.

Idk, man, I think you gotta go back to the drawing board.

Jeanne fan club1 votes

This shit happens all the time in solo/duo q as well. For the last few months Ive been rubber banding between d4 and p1, either a giant fking win streak from p1 to d4, or a massive unchangeable loss streak from d4 to p1, this has happened 4 times in the past ~2 months for me lol. I haven't had a net + mmr since last season because of this bs. ATM 1 loss for me = 2 wins lol.

Terozu1 votes

Black Swan fallacy.

Wimbledofy1 votes

This great giving you op teamates in your promos has to stop. Each of my promos, i go like 2/5 and get hard carried, like riot why are you making this so easy? I maybe lost like 1 promos on my cllimb?

Unstoppable Monk1 votes

Dude, flex was ruined a while back ago when people gave a "it's flex it doesn't count" attitude and shitted it up worse than a normal game. Nearly all of the people that invited be to another game were just out to gamethrow instead of climb and would harass me for not being god as they would incessantly be as dumb as possible while I had a tank/support role because they all played carries.

Like I can't respect anyone on any rank of flex just because of the crapshoot it is. Challenger flex to me is a just a climb after winning a bunch of gatchas, afaik.

Just a clone bru1 votes

You literally just admitted you got boosted but since it failed its okay LMAO

BeatzBoyFTW3 votes

[{quoted}](name=Just a clone bru,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=7oE6cgZO,comment-id=0025,timestamp=2018-09-18T12:49:53.824+0000)

You literally just admitted you got boosted but since it failed its okay LMAO

It's not boosted if:

a) I'm playing alongside him. b) it's Ranked Solo Flex for a reason.

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