Vlad may or may not be op

therealdragon·May 5, 2016·2 votes·935 views

https://youtu.be/s6O8tm211E4

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My eeeeelMay 5, 20165 votes

Just saw no one actually attacked him, but his hp went down from full hp to half. OP

therealdragonMay 5, 20161 votes

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Just saw no one actually attacked him, but his hp went down from full hp to half. OP

Actually not true. While not many attacked, GP got a barrel off on him and lee was able to get a Q off, finish the Q, do an AA and use hydra.

Then Vlad healed for 600 health from his crimson rush lol.

My eeeeelMay 5, 20163 votes

Well, old vlad did heal 500 from each eq. GP barrel missed and only damage he took was from lee sin.

WoonStruckMay 5, 20162 votes

Yeah, now play a game that doesn't have 5 glass-cannons (who are super far behind, mind you) mindlessly meandering around inside his W and E.

Any champ that's 5+ levels ahead of the enemy team would be able to do the same thing faster.

therealdragonMay 5, 20162 votes

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Yeah, now play a game that doesn't have 5 glass-cannons (who are super far behind, mind you) mindlessly meandering around inside his W and E.

Since when are GP and lee glass-cannons? Ziggs and Lux sure. Lucian is meh since he can lifesteal, but GP and lee don't really fall under that.

Any champ that's 7 levels ahead of the enemy team would be able to do the same thing faster.

But they wouldn't be able to heal and go untargetable. Thats the diff between vlad and everyone lol. He damages and heals for the damage he does. Its integrated in his kit. And he's an AP tank. Of course he doesn't kill people fast unless fed. Imagine a Cho'gath healing 500 everytime he lands a Q or uses feast. The healing compensates (or is supposed to compensate since a lot of people are complaining about vlad but its boards so meh) for his lack of burst damage.

On the other hand, that'd be an awesome game mode. For every spell you cast you heal 500 or for how much damage you do. Man champs would be broken xD.

WoonStruckMay 5, 20161 votes

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Since when are GP and lee glass-cannons? Ziggs and Lux sure. Lucian is meh since he can lifesteal, but GP and lee don't really fall under that.

Since they were so far behind. Lee obviously had Black Cleaver (most likely with that HP)+warrior as his only completed items. GP likely didn't even have trinity+IE finished. So they were definitely glass at the time.

But they wouldn't be able to heal and go untargetable. Thats the diff between vlad and everyone lol. He damages and heals for the damage he does. Its integrated in his kit. And he's an AP tank. Of course he doesn't kill people fast unless fed. Imagine a Cho'gath healing 500 everytime he lands a Q or uses feast. The healing compensates (or is supposed to compensate since a lot of people are complaining about vlad but its boards so meh) for his lack of burst damage.

Cho doesn't need to heal. He instantly deletes someone if he lands Q because of how he can follow up. Vlad has nothing outside of damage to interact with the enemy team. He NEEDS to have more damage despite that sustain.

Vlad is a carry first, and a sustain champion second. Due to people who don't know how Vlad actually works, the rework grossly missed that mark.

I think you're misinformed on how balance works.

therealdragonMay 5, 20161 votes

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search my match history where I'm Yasuo, you'll find their items. You're close though.

If you don't want to, GP had TF, IE, and lucidity boots and a BF sword. Lee had rav hydra, warrior, and was building Black Cleaver lol.

I suppose that's glass cannon seeing thats as far as they got.

Vlad is a carry first, and a sustain champion second. Due to people who don't know how Vlad actually works, the rework grossly missed that mark.

I think you're misinformed on how balance works.

Not balance, just how I perceived Vlad. I thought he was sustain FIRST and carry SECOND. Seeing as he's the only champion that can heal and if played pro enough, he can easily carry lategame.

However, I am not a vlad main and it seems you are so what do I know lol. Ty for telling me this though. It may not have been riot's intentions to actually change him that way though. They may have thought what I thought and tried to keep him as sustain primary and carry second.

My eeeeelMay 5, 20161 votes

Well, from removing of WotA, and vlad loses 10% hp everytime he cleans lane, probably not.

ErockandrollMay 5, 20161 votes

People keep telling me that Vlad is garbage, and need a buff. I almost fear that he will end up Yasuo'ed, getting a buff, followed by 3 nerfs, all because people were not good judges of power.

After playing him myself, Yes, his E is a little clunky with the Minion block, but I don't actually feel like he's that off the mark.

WoonStruckMay 5, 20161 votes

He's garbage. He has a sub-40% winrate so far.

Probably mostly due to all of his archaic animation delays that no longer need to be there due to the counterplay added to his kit. It makes his entire process counter-intuitive and prevents him from doing what his new kit is supposed to accomplish.

LadyRenlyMay 5, 20161 votes

please don 't listen to the people saying new vlad is terrible, he's not. he's absolutely insane and WILL be gutted, believe me.

My eeeeelMay 5, 20162 votes

Should I believe 20 diamond mains on my friendlist or someone who never actually mained or played vlad?

Blue VanityMay 5, 20161 votes

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Should I believe 20 diamond mains on my friendlist or someone who never actually mained or played vlad?

Read what i say above this message.

Blue VanityMay 5, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=My eeeeel,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=7LOXorv6,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2016-05-05T20:37:06.081+0000)

Should I believe 20 diamond mains on my friendlist or someone who never actually mained or played vlad?

Share this link with your friends and get them to support my thread please. It's self-explanatory.

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/nP0XMqfb-i-can-fix-vladimir-post-69?comment=00010000

therealdragonMay 5, 20161 votes

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Should I believe 20 diamond mains on my friendlist or someone who never actually mained or played vlad?

I'm just showing a vlad pentakill. I was completely honest when I said may or may not be op. We just saw that pentakill in that game and knew immediately that the enemy team was gonna ff xD. They did 10s later.

I'm just glad I was finally able to record a pentakill for once.

Blue VanityMay 5, 20161 votes

I like how a level 18 vladimir kills 5 level 12s and ignorant people call him out as OP.