Rune removal is going to have an effect on off meta or strange builds?

MorgManBasher·Sep 7, 2017·3 votes·504 views

Can you imagine playing support AP MF without hybrid runes? Or playing AP ezreal without hybrid runes (Kinda I guess since he's weird) Or full AD lethality Sion without flat AD or lethality runes Or jungling something that needs a certain rune setup to even clear?

Or playing low base HP champs or champs that scale with HP like vlad without health per level runes? I know I'll be missing health per level yellows on Morde.

Or are these new runes also going to give similiar options to the current runes for off play styles?

I mean obviously we can't know yet, but I really hope I have enough opitions to give me the same build parterns I have currently.

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EedatSep 7, 20171 votes

I mean even if it removs a few it's bound to add a few as well

TówaSep 7, 20171 votes

As I heard, the new rune system may sometimes promote the use of off-meta build so it may not completely kill them

MorgManBasherSep 7, 20171 votes

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As I heard, the new rune system may sometimes promote the use of off-meta build so it may not completely kill them

I hope so. I personally enjoy troll/fun/goofy builds and a lot of them depend on runes to work.

PartybringerSep 7, 20171 votes

they said they were gonna give champions base stats to compensate for the rune and mastery removal. But with runes and masteries my Aatrox starts with 33% attack speed and my Sion and Leona start with 30+ armor.

Not sure how they're gonna compensate for that

MorgManBasherSep 7, 20171 votes

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they said they were gonna give champions base stats to compensate for the rune and mastery removal. But with runes and masteries my starts with 33% attack speed and my and start with 30+ armor.

Not sure how they're gonna compensate for that

Yeah, I love running armor quints and health per level yellows on my Sion, personally. Gives him plenty of armor for early with good scaling with the yellows. I dunno, I know a lot of people are hyped for the new runes but I'm really not. I just feel like it's just going to be such a big balance mess that won't get cleaned up till almost the end of new season, like always lol.

PartybringerSep 7, 20171 votes

i don't have a lot of runes, and only have the 2 rune pages you start with. So i'm looking forward to it. But not sure how they're going to balance champs to compensate for the runes and mastery removal.

Bootleg GaySep 7, 20171 votes

Remember when we all thought Rune Glaive was gonna save the magic junglers? And it gave us a monster Ezreal build instead?

I know we'll be losing a bunch of these raw stats, but you'll instead be getting a bigger scaling set of runes set on waiting out the early game, and bigger shields, heals, and a whole assortment of things that compensate for the lack of raw stats you'll be missing out on.

CatastropSep 7, 20171 votes

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Can you imagine playing support AP MF without hybrid runes? Or playing AP ezreal without hybrid runes (Kinda I guess since he's weird)

Why would you ever want to use hybrid runes on either of these champion's ap variants? You're throwing away damage doing that.

That aside, runes(as they are now) aren't what make off meta builds work, it's the itemization that does that. So I highly doubt off-meta builds are going to take a hit because of this(well aside from 1% crit chance).

MorgManBasherSep 7, 20171 votes

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Why would you ever want to use hybrid runes on either of these champion's ap variants? You're throwing away damage doing that.

That aside, runes(as they are now) aren't what make off meta builds work, it's the itemization that does that. So I highly doubt off-meta builds are going to take a hit because of this(well aside from 1% crit chance).

Hybrid reds are/were standard for AP support MF since she does hybrid damage and your main source of damage in lane is magic damage which you get from e max and thunderlords. You can use flat AD reds for autos, but that's like the poor man build and will hurt your e damage.

Also you need to run flat AP on MF for lane otherwise your damage will be a lot lower. Runes are extremely important for laning phase, you don't walk into lane with just any runes and expect to win lane when doing certain build paths.