If veigar's e is changed, I don't really care, it was complete bull. But...why change his Q to a skillshot? I understand it allows him to poke more, and (theoretically) farm better, but...why have it stop after 2 enemies hit? If it becomes a pass through, it'd be a lot better, and WOULD completely compensate him for DFG removal.
Thryale1 votesI just want my point and click back. It was a lot easier to farm that way, and it didn't shove the lane on me. The mana cost reduction on W was enough if I needed to shove a lane, but mostly, I just want to freeze it just outside of turret till I'm lvl 9. Then I can bring the hurt with q's till they are in burst range.
BuCkeT SeiZureS1 votesHonestly, I am not TOO hurt by the Q change. the reason i hate it is that they did it at the expense of his R. I could care less if i get two minions with Q, but loosing 200 damage on my ult for it? not okay. Not to mention they raised the cooldown on it. so getting those two minions becomes a necessity in order to stay on par for damage. Overall it is actually quite a big nerf.
5.5 is a huge step in the right direction. but i want to see Veigar's W drop time reduced and maybe add a slow to it. If they do that and lower the base damage slightly, then bring his R back to its former glory. I think we are back on track to have a good champion. Then they just have to bring his Q back to its lower cooldown. I also think that they should lower its mana cost slightly if they want it to become more of a farming tool than harass tool
Thryale2 voteshonestly, as a skill shot, the range on his Q is painfully short. I'm aware there are shorter ranged skill shots, but even still, it's annoying. Problem is, even if riot does give it some more range, that'll just further shift him from his core theme as a single target burst mage to a siege/poke mage like syndra. And veigar already had to compete with syndra for a slot on the team to begin with.
BuCkeT SeiZureS2 votesTrust me, I agree 100% with you. i dont want more range on his Q. I just want some reliable CC and his R damage back. I want to be able to outplay someone. Currently, veigar cannot win a game, his opponent can only lose.
Thryale1 votesI also really miss my fade away Q's too. Just drop q and walk away and laugh as they try to flash/dash away from it.
BuCkeT SeiZureS1 votesI do as well. It will never be the same 
I would say fade away R, but it lost damage and the laugh when it kills.
Akenero1 votesPoint and click WAS the best way to do things, he was at great power then, now... He needs to balance minion waves to be able to GET the 2 ap, something that's really difficult (tried in a BOT game)
BuCkeT SeiZureS1 votesI feel that the Q can be balanced. As in, they can make this work, but they need to compensate for removing reliability. If they made it cost less and have a lower cool down. But its definitely not worth losing .2 AP on your ult. It doesn't work that way. Riot needs to give the damage back on the ult, whether they adjust the Q or not.
Trídent1 votesQ change wasn't that bad, just a rework... a passthrough would be nice though. The E was the main thing that nerfed him ;_;