Why can i never beat Yasuo?
Seriously, help me! I can never beat him. What am I doing wrong?
Seriously, help me! I can never beat him. What am I doing wrong?
Thank you to the extremely helpful person who downvoted me for asking for help.
First, we need to know what champs you are using.
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First, we need to know what champs you are using.
Honestly any champ I use against him I fail.
I main Malz, and Panth and Fiora (all who are supposed to do well vs him) and I just get wrecked every time.
Honestly any champ I use against him I fail.
I main Malz, and Panth and Fiora (all who are supposed to do well vs him) and I just get wrecked every time.
The champs you mention seem to be of one conclusion considering how they lane vs him.
You aren't taking a passive aggressive stance vs them. You need to know your zone and understand you will win if you poke once or twice before he fights you.
As Malz, if you have sight shove that shit right into turret on him early on. Focus out farming him not killing him. You have the advantage of lane push control early on. Get a item piece on him and then start poking. AA shield proc once on him, wait, and then pop your space aids.
As Fiora, honestly playing Fiora into Yas is extremely skill based and you really have to know how to use W properly in trades. You will win trades if you pop W correctly.
As Panth, start flask, go mele range AA, wait a sec on shield, and then throw a spear. If he jumps onto during this time then pop ur combo on him. You will win if you trade blows with your aegis up.
I honestly have 0 idea how you manage to do bad vs him as Malz/panth..Fiora I can cut slack on but Malz/Panth are probably his hardest counters if you seperate it by hardest ad/ap counter.
As malz just E a minion and farm until level 6. After which he is unable to do anything to you, without help. There's practically no option he has but to be your bitch. Your combo just demolishes him so hard and there's nothing he can do about it except cry for jungler help
As for pantheon he's the same vs any melee. You stomp their faces in until late game where they become more relevant than you if you don't completely shut them down.
Fiora I can't say I see her enough to vs him but I can see that being more of a skillmatchup than anything
I honestly have 0 idea how you manage to do bad vs him as Malz/panth..Fiora I can cut slack on but Malz/Panth are probably his hardest counters if you seperate it by hardest ad/ap counter.
As malz just E a minion and farm until level 6. After which he is unable to do anything to you, without help. There's practically no option he has but to be your bitch. Your combo just demolishes him so hard and there's nothing he can do about it except cry for jungler help
As for pantheon he's the same vs any melee. You stomp their faces in until late game where they become more relevant than you if you don't completely shut them down.
Fiora I can't say I see her enough to vs him but I can see that being more of a skillmatchup than anything
Admittedly the Panth games I haven't done in months I just remember him beating me a lot.
As for malz, every time I went to E a minion he was able to dash dash dash knockup me for 3 free autos
Your E has a pretty decent range lol. E a minion then either drop your W or use your Q to get a bunch of them low and let the aids do the work.
You have to be a bit more detailed in your question....asking for help and giving literally no info at all on what you do, what they do that gets you, what you play as, isn't getting you help at all.
You have to be a bit more detailed in your question....asking for help and giving literally no info at all on what you do, what they do that gets you, what you play as, isn't getting you help at all.
I did explain a bit above your comment. Even as 3 champs that SHOULD be able to beat him every time I just constantly find myself getting harassed down and ulted every 30 seconds.
When playing against Yasuo, rule #1, don't try to flank him, just run at him and you win.
Play Yasuo until you have a clue what he does, if you lose to Yasuo everytime when playing his supposed "counter picks", then the problem is you.
Play Yasuo until you have a clue what he does, if you lose to Yasuo everytime when playing his supposed "counter picks", then the problem is you.
I know the problem is me...hence asking for help... why act like I was in denial of it?
Malz should straight up crap on Yasuo. It happens every time I get that match up. His wall blocks nothing you do(except maybe voidling attacks).
Start Dorans ring and health pots. For the first couple of levels just last hit safely. And choose safety over last hitting. Once you get a couple of levels you can start casting E on low minions and pushing the wave. Go back for a 2nd dorans ring as soon as possible. With 2 Dorans rings you can just push the wave with E and Q. If Yasuo tries to last hit he will eat some jumping E's Try to dodge as many Q's as possible, and try to hit him with a few Q's of your own. But focus mainly on pushing the wave and staying safe.
You should start to out farm him seriously. An unwise Yasuo will try to all in you at some point, and all inning Malz 1v1 is a bad idea.
here i go again for the 5th time tonight. copy pasterino
Hi, Plat 3
main here, let me see if I can help.
There are a few tips that people already know about facing a Yasuo; poke his shield off with autos, he's weakest right after his tornado is gone, and he's weak to ganks. I'd like to go into more detail.
The key to beating a Yasuo in lane is proper minion management, and proper management is different depending on whether you're a ranged or melee champion. As a ranged champion, you want to keep the wave in 1 of 2 places depending on Yasuo's health relative to yours. If Yasuo is ahead or even, you want to keep the wave frozen a bit outside of your own tower, so that he has to go into tower range to order to hit you. You can basically do whatever you want to him if the wave is in this spot because you can simply retreat into tower range if he tries to go onto you. However, if you're ahead of him in health, you want to start a slow push, so you can poke him whenever he tries to CS and you'll have a buffer of minion support if he tries to all in you. In this case, he can't do much either.
For a melee champion, you want to slow push pretty much all the time. Yasuo is extremely vulnerable to being all inned by melee champions when he's trying to CS, and a good Yasuo will try to do a slow push of his own to discourage his opponent from attacking him. One important thing to understand is that while enemy minions are oftentimes Yasuo's best friends since he uses them to dash, they are also one of his biggest weaknesses since he's required to tank them in order to trade. If you can bait him into tanking alot of minions with some kind of defensive ability like an ori shield, you can very easily come out ahead in trades, provided you don't panic, keep autoing, and hit some extra free damage on him when he tries to get out.
Generally speaking, a Yasuo will always want the wave in 1 of 2 places. He either wants a slight minion advantage on his side so he can get free opportunities to poke with Q, but not so many more minions that the wave gets frozen outside the enemy tower. A good Yasuo will bait you into hitting minions with AOE abilities to push the wave back towards him if it starts to get too close to tower, allowing him to be aggressive again. The other position is for when Yasuo has a lead on his opponent; he will want to freeze outside of his tower, leaving a long trail of minions to dash through so he can all in you if you try to walk up to CS. The key to beating Yasuo is to keep the wave where you want it to be rather than the way he wants it to be, or there's not a whole lot you can do as alot of champions.
Other general tips for beating Yasuo include: Ask for ganks, an aggressive Yasuo player is very easy to bait and kill if he isn't strong enough to 1v2 already. Take exhaust as a combat summoner if your kill pressure on him is low, its a great way to neutralize his aggression in lane as well as neuter him in teamfights. If Yasuo misses his tornado, that is the time to be aggressive. His Q is on CD, he has no CC for a while, and his ult, by extension, is unavailable. And if Yasuo gets too aggressive in lane and messes up when trying to trade, all in him right then and there. If you get a lead against Yasuo, most champions will be able to zone him out heavily since he's a squishy melee only champion with no escape and no natural sustain.
And 1 final tip that almost no one knows about. Yasuo's ult is a suspension and not a knockup, which means it can be removed with QSS, Mikaels, Cleanse, Gangplanks orange, and Olaf's and Alistars ult. If you remove it, you can move immediately and will take no damage, but Yasuo will still be stuck in his ult animation until it is finished. - credit goes to slamurai jack (senpai notice me)
As Malzahar, put your W under him in order to proc his shield and run it out. Then E him to burn him down.
When he dashes at you, WQE,R and watch him run or die.
Also, someone give me a good name as I am a yasuo main and nobody is posting on my damn threads. WHATS A GOOD DAMN NAME FOR A YASUO MAIN and also.... why do I have no creativity of my own :(