@Morello @Meddler: I really think these Malphite buffs are a mistake

ChoGathsSon··2 votes·336 views

He's already perfectly balanced. He can win lanes vs any ADs by maxing W/E depending on whether the enemy is AA dependent. If he starts snowballing, he can max Q and build AP and wreck face mid game. He's gated by his mana pool, a lack of any sustain and the previous buff to his passive helped a ton. He's exactly where he needs to be at the moment.

What these buffs do is remove any moment of weakness. If I'm against a non AA depedent AD (Renekton as an example), I'm maxing W first, E second and stacking armor and straight up just out-trading him by pressing E and auto attacking him a few times now. Not only to I passively get an armor bonus that helps with my durability, it makes my Es damage much higher at all times because the armor is passively there. And if I'm against an AA depedent champion? Forgot it, he already auto wins those lanes with E max first, W max second. This just makes those lanes even more favorable.

You're doing two things with these buffs: you're removing his mana costs because nobody is ever going to use W outside of all-ins and E max is all he needs to out-trade any melee. And the armor bonus that he has now, it is strong when active yes but it costs mana and has a down time, giving him a window of weakness vs ADs.

Malph is perfectly fine right now, please don't go through with these buffs. You're just going to end up completely gutting him in a few patches when he becomes pick and bans. And because you never just revert buffs and go back to a state where the champion is perfectly balanced, he's going to be made weaker overall in a few patches.

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Irelia Bot1 votes

I agree that it does seem a bit excessive making him have a constant +30% armor. In effect getting a frozen heart by around 12 minutes will make a lot of AD champs unable to do much of anything to him. This change is also making it so this weakness of pushing the lane when last hitting is also gone.

The armor passive needs some kind of short coming such as when the ability is active the armor is lost.

Also riot please kill AP malphite like you killed AP YI, AP trynda and AP Irelia.

ChoGathsSon1 votes

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I agree that it does seem a bit excessive making him have a constant +30% armor. In effect getting a frozen heart by around 12 minutes will make a lot of AD champs unable to do much of anything to him. This change is also making it so this weakness of pushing the lane when last hitting is also gone.

The armor passive needs some kind of short coming such as when the ability is active the armor is lost.

Also riot please kill AP malphite like you killed AP YI, AP trynda and AP Irelia.

It doesn't need a thing, it's fine as is. Just don't go through with these changes.

1000angrybees1 votes

His ult is already disgustingly ridiculous, but he needs buffs apparently.

ChoGathsSon1 votes

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His ult is already disgustingly ridiculous, but he needs buffs apparently.

Eh, his ult IS good but there are so many knock-ups/displacements galore in this game now that it kinda feels less powerful than it once was. The one thing it has going for it over most of these is that it's by far the best for initiation. Pure, unadulterated, rock solid initiation straight into your rear end.

ChoGathsSon1 votes

"ARGH I'm going to downvote you because I disagree with you but I won't explain why I think you're wrong because I'm probably wrong"

SlytherinUmbreon1 votes

What I'm really going to miss is AD Malphite :c Rip in peace

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