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The big misconception about solo queue - Climbing is impossible without duo.

Aleksei··3 votes·2,134 views

I'm writing this thread as someone who's played league since season 1 over multiple accounts.

Right now I see on youtube videos and streams that you can climb to high elo by "learning the macro game and sticking to a few S tier champions."

THIS. IS. FALSE.

Let me break this illusion for you. The high elo streamers have ALL duo queue'd to their master/challenger rank. The ONLY way they get to high elo without duo'ing with another player is if they play THOUSANDS of solo queue games. This is the only way.

Let me repeat that. The ONLY way to get high elo is if you spend thousands of games with a 51% win rate and pray to jesus that your promos are where you win 3/5 games. The rest of the time you are 100% dependent on not having a bad team.

Do not be fooled. You cannot get to masters/challenger playing solo queue. It is simply impossible. Truly impossible. You need to duo with another player equal to you. ALL high elo players have duo'd to their rank if they are less than 2000 games played in ranked. All.

There are no exceptions.

The way League is set up in 2019 is entirely balanced around pro players. (absolute cancer I know). If pro players are complaining the game gets major nerfs. The 0.1% of players who are pro dictate who is OP and who is not. Do not think that your individual play matters. You need to Duo if you want to climb. You need to.

I refuse to cater to riot's balancing and will forever play solo because I have respect for myself. I truly admire those who play over 2000 ranked games to get diamond+. You have my respect. But i dont have the time to invest in that.

Everyone knows Riot Games is a joke and their team who decides balancing should all be fired.

19 Comments

Dynikus4 votes

The high elo streamers have ALL duo queue'd to their master/challenger rank. Do not be fooled. You cannot get to masters/challenger playing solo queue. It is simply impossible. Truly impossible. You need to duo with another player equal to you. ALL high elo players have duo'd to their rank if they are less than 2000 games played in ranked. All. There are no exceptions. You need to Duo if you want to climb. You need to. over 2000 ranked games to get diamond+

You keep repeating such a blatantly wrong statement, while providing absolutely nothing to back it up. Is this some kind of satire I'm just not getting?

DuskDaUmbreon4 votes

Hi, someone who's actually climbing in SoloQ here (or at least was until I got distracted by other games again).

You don't need a duo. You need to git gud.

You don't even need to play S-tier champs. Just play a small pool of decent champions.

Hordes661 votes

False. It requires a duo. OP is correct.

Polaris I5 votes

False the op is not correct, it does not take thousands of games. He has no evidence other than a vague statement that every youtuber/streamer has a duo.

DOUBLE TAPPED E1 votes

False... ummm... what were we talking about again?

Kai Guy1 votes

I am walking my talk. Should have a level 30 finished in a few weeks here then its solo que support after I intentionally Tank my starting MMR by abusing Lobby dodges... assuming that still works.

I'm also probably going to intentionally Fail Promos by dodging lobby's to show how little promo games matter if you can grind positive MMR.

Polaris I1 votes

Dodging doesn’t affect mmr

Kai Guy1 votes

Exactly. So I get placed right smack dab in the very middle starting point and The title Riot assigns is below that.

Its also why the Title will play catchup to a large MMR gap from dodging promos.

Ekhasm2 votes

You are kind of right, you have to play a ton of games. You may be a decent player, but stuck at crap rank because you don't play this game 24/7, thats the truth

Kai Guy1 votes

150-300 is the expectation last time I saw a value from Riot.

preternatural1 votes

just go on a training arc in flex queue. when your flex rank is the same as your solo rank go play some soloqueue you'll pop off hard after having to lose your shit in flex.

Kai Guy1 votes

I am grinding a smurf and going to solo as a support main thru low Elo.

Letting community pick the champions I use in rotation.

Currently its Braum Rakan Blitzcrank Soraka Lulu Janna Taric Leona on the list of suggestions of "impossible to climb with"

Feel free to add to the list.

MrFawknSunshine1 votes

you do know that when you duo queue they give the other team higher mmr to compensate for the duo

Kai Guy1 votes

A lot of people do not know that anymore. I had some one call me a liar for saying so and had to track down the Zileas post to quote it.

Polaris I1 votes

You can get same mmr but lp gain will be less, sometimes.

Gamma Sector1 votes

Literally the ONLY champ I can climb through elo hell with is Ahri. Ahri singlehandedly got me to gold a few seasons ago. She is the ultimate spoonfeeding champion. land a charm and as long as your team isn't actually clinically r%%%%%ed, you turn it into a 5v4

Saezio1 votes

Straight up lies in OP's post to help himself sleep at night.

Duo helps sure, but no challenger player needs a duo or thousands of games. and of course they don't have a 51% winrate.

Most of them have >70% winratio up to diamond 4.

Wood7League1 votes

We all have our limits. Mine is plat 1 and I could create multiple accounts and climb to this rank in less then 2 weeks. You can't expect to be in bronze,silver,gold for years and by magic climb all the way past diamond in one season. It takes time and patience, every year I climb one whole division by learning more about the game. If you need a duo to climb then your duo is better then you and you are just climbing on their back

Mahan1 votes

i got to plat4 as a support main. it was "easy" to get there solo, but now i mostly play duo since its much easier to climb with a duo as support( dont matter what role my duo is). but you need to watch BoxBox, NB3, Tyler1, T2g, and other high elo streamer, they climb to there rank mostly solo, very rare do they duo with someone, if your hard stuck silver that a matter of lacking Macro skills both for your champion and what to do on the rift imo.

Champ pool,Braum Thresh Leona Blitzcrank Nautilus Morgana

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