I Joined the One-Shot META

Zullar·Aug 28, 2019·5 votes·2,348 views

After trying to play many different champions without much luck I decided to play champ with mobility that can one-shot people. It's really fun (for me... not them).

21 Comments

KABLUMPAug 28, 20194 votes

proof of results?

Or is this just some salt towards assassin players because you don't know how to itemize defensively

ZullarAug 28, 20191 votes

I think I had one game with 37 kills and 2 deaths. Overall sitting at 70% win rate across 71 games.

I kill most people before the CC ends. Even if they build 2 or 3 defensive items.

When they complain in all chat about lack of counterplay I just say "S9".

PxerkzaAug 28, 20191 votes

Yes.

KABLUMPAug 28, 20191 votes

The only non '1shot' games in your match history was when you went full HP+Damage sion a few times

what are you even on about

you play full AP malphite more than half of your games unless yo're on miss fortune

HàrrowRAug 28, 20191 votes

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The only non '1shot' games in your match history was when you went full HP+Damage sion a few times

what are you even on about

you play full AP malphite more than half of your games unless yo're on miss fortune

ahahhahah, nice detective work. I was expecting him to play Zoe/Rengar/Zed or something but nope, Full AP Malph all the way

KABLUMPAug 28, 20192 votes

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ahahhahah, nice detective work. I was expecting him to play Zoe/Rengar/Zed or something but nope, Full AP Malph all the way

i always love how people who complain about assassins being overpowered never ever seem to build any armor (1 for 1 armor vs lethality is a cancellation effect, assassins don't build conq, and can't take a beating from tanks. usually the tank can't catch them either. so it winds up as a pointless engagement only leading to deaths in low elo or ambush ganks because frankly tanks can't kill assassins and assassins can't kill tanks 1v1 without mind numbing levels of tunnel vision and negligence about the rest of the match

PiggyTheAstroAug 28, 20191 votes

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i always love how people who complain about assassins being overpowered never ever seem to build any armor (1 for 1 armor vs lethality is a cancellation effect, assassins don't build conq, and can't take a beating from tanks. usually the tank can't catch them either. so it winds up as a pointless engagement only leading to deaths in low elo or ambush ganks because frankly tanks can't kill assassins and assassins can't kill tanks 1v1 without mind numbing levels of tunnel vision and negligence about the rest of the match

ADCs and mages don't have any good armor items.

KABLUMPAug 28, 20191 votes

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ADCs and mages don't have any good armor items.

Zhonya's is really good, and and high mmr player will tell you that

Adcs having armor? errrrr.. that's like making banshee's a good item, it just leads to forced autorush

GoldteamgoAug 28, 20191 votes

item 3026 or item 3157

HàrrowRAug 28, 20191 votes

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ADCs and mages don't have any good armor items.

ADCs have a whole lot of defensive items yet people don't buy them. item 3026 completely screws assassins over in team fights, while item 3046 + item 3080 allow you to drain tank late game if you don't get blown up by getting caught or hooked

egOrhythmAug 28, 20191 votes

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ADCs have a whole lot of defensive items yet people don't buy them. completely screws assassins over in team fights, while + allow you to drain tank late game if you don't get blown up by getting caught or hooked

Yep. And then here comes the (INSERT WHATEVER MAGE YOU WANT HERE) midlaner with a grand total of 2200 gold invested for 38 flat magic pen and does practically true damage against you.

AD assassins aren't that big a problem. You can itemize against them pretty effectively.

Mages on the other hand...... hooboy I do not have any nice things to say about mages. They need to all be kneecapped with the nerf sledgehammer across the board. Start from A and finish at Z.

HàrrowRAug 28, 20191 votes

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i always love how people who complain about assassins being overpowered never ever seem to build any armor (1 for 1 armor vs lethality is a cancellation effect, assassins don't build conq, and can't take a beating from tanks. usually the tank can't catch them either. so it winds up as a pointless engagement only leading to deaths in low elo or ambush ganks because frankly tanks can't kill assassins and assassins can't kill tanks 1v1 without mind numbing levels of tunnel vision and negligence about the rest of the match

Oh man don't say that here, https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/xyenN0lR-people-complain-about-damage-but-rarely-build-more-than-one-or-two-defensive-items

This is my post, 14 up votes 31 down votes, you can see for yourself the reasoning of the boards members, if you can't tank 5 people for half a minute with 2 defensive items then its not even worth buying obviously.

And it doesn't even have to be armor ADCs can get item 3046 item 3080 item 3026 + Overheal rune, thats literally 1150 bonus HP + 45 armor + revive + Lifesteal that can heal for lets say an extra 300-500 hp per fight

Mages have item 3157 item 3102 item 3151 item 3116 item 3040 item 3027 item 3165

You have supports that can make your whole team invulnerable Taric or heal everyone Janna Soraka or revive people Zilean yet people spam Pyke and then complain about the damage.

If needed i'll go resolve second as an ADC for the extra surviveability. The damage is really high in the game, but people not picking real supports and not building any defensive items is what contributes to this problem a lot

ZullarAug 28, 20191 votes

I tested the full build burst vs target dummy (which has 100MR).

3250 damage at 0min of gathering storm and 0 infernals 4250 damage at 50min of gathering storm and 3 infernals

Lets look at an ADC with 1800HP. If he builds merc boots and maw and phantom dancer he has about 110MR and 1800+600HP shield +350 hp shield. That's 2750 HP... he still gets 1shot with 3 defensive items.

And in-game I've 1shot people with 4 ~defensive items. I remember a TF that had Merc treads, trinity force for 250HP, wits end, and maw. Still 100%-0%. I think I had some infernal drags that game if I remember right.

See why your post about defensive items gets downvoted?

HàrrowRAug 29, 20191 votes

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I tested the full build burst vs target dummy (which has 100MR).

3250 damage at 0min of gathering storm and 0 infernals 4250 damage at 50min of gathering storm and 3 infernals

Lets look at an ADC with 1800HP. If he builds merc boots and maw and phantom dancer he has about 110MR and 1800+600HP shield +350 hp shield. That's 2750 HP... he still gets 1shot with 3 defensive items.

And in-game I've 1shot people with 4 ~defensive items. I remember a TF that had Merc treads, trinity force for 250HP, wits end, and maw. Still 100%-0%. I think I had some infernal drags that game if I remember right.

See why your post about defensive items gets downvoted?

Maw and Phantom can't stack, they share the same passive
Max rank ADCs have 2000-2100 base HP
A simple Guardian Angel or Zhonya's would completely waste your ult

Nevermind the unrealistic 3 infernals and 50 min gathering storm games and the cherry on the cake is that you're actually talking about AP malphite as it is a thing people do on a regular basis, it's a cheese pick, you can win with it, you can delete people with it but overall you're playing a champ with a build who's only usefull once every minute and if he misses his R he's completely useless.

I'm talking about real world scenarios, like Zoe where item 3139 literally saves you every time, or any other assassin/mage that doesn't hit every ability on you perfectly with 3 infernal drakes and 50 mins of gathering storm. Hell with 3 infernals and 50 mins of gathering storm i reckon Miss Fortune can deal 7k damage per target with her ult, that would make her the most broken champ there is right?

All im saying is in realistic scenarios having at least GA+BT will more than likely save your life at least once during the game and that just might be what gets you the win.

And it's not just the items, enchanter supports as opposed to brand and pyke will literally save your life 10 times during the game i just wish they never introduced mages to bot lane or the atrocity that is pyke. Not only do mage supports just add damage to the game but they also take up the role that is meant to mitigate damage, making it twice as bad. Just pay attention next time when both sides have regular supports like Janna and Soraka and how different the game feels.

Devilreaper XIIIAug 28, 20193 votes

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i always love how people who complain about assassins being overpowered never ever seem to build any armor (1 for 1 armor vs lethality is a cancellation effect, assassins don't build conq, and can't take a beating from tanks. usually the tank can't catch them either. so it winds up as a pointless engagement only leading to deaths in low elo or ambush ganks because frankly tanks can't kill assassins and assassins can't kill tanks 1v1 without mind numbing levels of tunnel vision and negligence about the rest of the match

not all champions can build tank without falling off so hard .-.

KABLUMPAug 28, 20191 votes

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not all champions can build tank without falling off so hard .-.

That's a game pace issue

Devilreaper XIIIAug 29, 20191 votes

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That's a game pace issue

no that has more to do with what stats items give, adc need atk speed and crit, mages need AP, not all mages build zhonya or gauntlet since it'd be useless on them, and adc has always been building sustain rather than tank, it used to be good till the oneshots happened O.O

KABLUMPAug 29, 20191 votes

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no that has more to do with what stats items give, adc need atk speed and crit, mages need AP, not all mages build zhonya or gauntlet since it'd be useless on them, and adc has always been building sustain rather than tank, it used to be good till the oneshots happened O.O

Late game adcs are supposed to be able to deal with tanks

Late game happens at like 20 minutes these days

Game pace

Devilreaper XIIIAug 30, 20191 votes

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Late game adcs are supposed to be able to deal with tanks

Late game happens at like 20 minutes these days

Game pace

sustain vs sustain, these days tanks win lol

musixxalAug 28, 20191 votes

being mobile doesn't equate to being able to 1-shot someone.

xDogMeatxAug 28, 20191 votes

actually armor malphite is just as effective (if not more) due to how armor gives his W AD damage. with aftershock/malphite armor passive you can burst with WQE just as good vs targets while also resisting damage thats physical. aka being a tank assassin (due to his W/E) with a buttload of armor resists that amps each W autoattack. AP malphite is where your Q is king here ( item 3285 since it gives 100 base damage per Q).