Why does Zeds ult shadow not follow the same rules as his W shadow?

Tik115·Mar 13, 2015·1 votes·810 views

If you get too far away from a Zed W shadow the shadow vanishes, ok that's nice it means a Zed lacks a safety net should he go too ham.

So then why is his R exempt from this?

It's noted that he can recast back to his R AND ANY RANGE, so long as he presses R in the next 6 seconds he could of taken a magical journey and a Thresh lantern and blink back to his original location.

I am legit curious why Riot thinks this is OK and if they don't know themselves why they don't give the ult the same rule as the W?

7 Comments

Trash MammaIMar 13, 20151 votes

It use to but then they changed it to make it so he could go back to his ult's shadow from any range. Idr what the reason was but it wasn't something that made him any better than he was for the most part.

Leblanc Gets to do the exact same thing..constantly..on a low cd..twice if she wants..

Tik115Mar 13, 20151 votes

See thats the thing, why did they change it? for what reason? because whatever the reason it doesn't excuse the change

Tik115Mar 13, 20151 votes

Found the patch note saying it

Zed’s been a balance pain point for a while, especially at the competitive level. In particular, Zed’s current play patterns – while satisfying for the player – can be executed so quickly that they offer little to no reaction time for his opponents. In its current iteration, Death Mark sets up Zed’s gameplay for free with little execution needed beforehand. Because Zed’s intended gameplay focuses so heavily on manipulating his shadows, we want to force him to actively think about how he’ll use his tools to assassinate his targets.

So...yeah no actual reasoning why on the context

ForgiveColourMar 13, 20151 votes

it used to until they broke it but he was still trash tier at that time so they didnt care

DurzakaMar 13, 20151 votes

Because its an ultimate?

Tik115Mar 13, 20151 votes

Being an ultimate doesn't mean it should be given exempt from the same rule his W has when his ult shadow is just a W shadow with unlimited range to blink back to, Thats like saying Pantheon or Nocturne should have unlimited range on their ult because its an ult, y'know, what it use to have before they nerfed it due to lack of counterplay

SmknWdlMar 13, 20151 votes

I think they should change zed a bit so he can become a jungler... think about it. Zed jungle. His e for camp clear, w e for the slow on ganks. He could totally do jungle.