4 years later and Irelia still has the same balance issues

Angelofchaos16x··13 votes·1,302 views
Surrender at 20

"Our concerns with Irelia lie less with her overall power and more in her fundamental design.

Fighting against Irelia has very little counterplay. The ball always seems to be in her park.

For example:

  1. She deals Physical, Magic, and True damage. There is no good way to itemize against her attacks.

  2. Her passive makes use of CC on her ineffective.

  3. The lifesteal on her ultimate calculates the heal pre-mitigation. This means that even if you build Magic Resist to lower the damage it deals to you, she will still gain life as if you had 0 Magic Resist.

Right now, Irelia's true weakness lies in the fact that she doesn't scale very well with any particular stat but scales with all of them. This is why people are so incentivized to get a Trinity Force or Wit's End and then just build tank because Irelia has very high bases to make up for the lack of scaling.

To give her a more gameplay conducive weakness, we need to push her either more towards the bursty Assassin or more towards the sustained Fighter role. Right now, she is too much of both and it makes playing against her a pain. I know right now we are leaning towards pushing her towards Assassin but that could change."

  • RiotStatikk, QA Analyst, via the official forums.

Now tell me, doesn't that sound exactly like the Irelia we have and play against today ? Other then number 3 that was somewhat fixed, all the other problems are still true to this day. Here is a link to the original debate (http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=706081&page=1).

16 Comments

Hayaishi23 votes

Just like Rengar Diana

They were nerfed and still work the same. Finish the job Riot.

Rand0mH3r0X3 votes

Darius Level Rework into the ground?

ImTheRealGnar2 votes

Rengar is an assassin, he has counter play. Diana is balanced too. Irelia how ever, I don't know what really. An assassin bruiser who is just a pain in the ass to deal with.

Only Play Darius3 votes

Only thing I hate about Irelia is the stun. It seems to last forever and it's unavoidable, and she can easily 100-0 you with zero chance to fight back if you're squishy.

Other than that I don't have a problem with her.

ElegantDoge2 votes

I agree that she needs some changes but...in term of balance she's fine at the moment.If you want to change her for nerfing her it's not the right thing to do and not fair :/

Lambs Frenzy1 votes

Yea like it's fair that she gets to stun you just for having higher health than her sounds balanced to me.

ElegantDoge1 votes

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Yea like it's fair that she gets to stun you just for having higher health than her sounds balanced to me.

UH...it's like saying Riven is unfair for stunning you and almost one shotting for just...getting close to you?Her stun is anoying but that's it.

Yordle Xayah1 votes

Draven "I'll never be nerfed!"

Angelofchaos16x2 votes

I don't even think nerfs is what she needs, I think she needs a entire Rework. What is she ? A Assassin or a Bruiser ? Cause now she is a tanky bruiser assassin with massive sustain and good lock-down potential. She can be a total bitch to kill in a team fight, because CC is no good to kill her quickly (unless it's a knock-up) and she can not be ignored, or she will end the entire team fight with her damage and resets.

NightstalkerX71 votes

You used to have bleed on your crits.

Yordle Xayah1 votes

Yeah, it was changed... over 2 years ago! When Ahri hadn't been changed for Season 4 and DFG was a thing still. Wanna see how many champions have been released/nerfed/buffed since and how much the game and power spikes have changed in that time?

Salidfingers1 votes

Top late i chew her up.

ill admit though i have seen a few irelia's destroy a squishy team once she get a tri-force.

LankPants1 votes

ill admit though i have seen a few irelia's destroy a squishy team once she get a tri-force.

Maybe it's just me but that seems like an out-picked scenario. You can't play a squishy team and expect not to get destroyed by any burst based character in the game.

There are also plenty of other bruisers, assassins and tanks who will punish you just as hard for poor team building.

Rand0mH3r0X1 votes

But do you know what I honestly think about this?

"Better Nerf Irelia." - Morello

Chase Kilgannon1 votes

"Ball in her park"

HEH HEH

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