How is Allistar's new E?

Oglaf·Dec 1, 2016·2 votes·1,054 views

Does it change is skill priority, or is it still

R>Q>W>E...?

13 Comments

RalanrDec 1, 20162 votes

His E is pretty interesting. I max it first in the jungle only though.

RisenDarkKnightDec 1, 20162 votes

You definitely shouldn't, rank 1 E gives you 100 damage, while ranks 2-5 only add 25 damage each. Q gives 45 more damage per rank, and W gives 55 more damage per rank. E is very much a one point wonder.

The magic damage proc on the stun auto vs champions scales with your champion level, not your rank in E.

Imperial PandaaDec 1, 20162 votes

Moo! Alistar

I max it last since the scaling is level and not rank. The lower mana cost helps in a pinch too. Both for engage and disengage.

Jon1174Dec 1, 20161 votes

R>E>W>Q that's about it

OglafDec 1, 20161 votes

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R>E>W>Q that's about it

That's a pretty radical change-up.

His new E that good?

Jon1174Dec 1, 20161 votes

I like it, it adds more cc to and can chunk squishes more than you think.

RisenDarkKnightDec 1, 20162 votes

Don't listen to that skill order, points in E after the first one give almost nothing. E level 1 is insanely good (150 damage if you hit everything), but you only get 25 more damage and slightly lower cooldown per point in E. You get way more from maxing Q and W, and you lower the cooldown of your combo by doing so. The full damage on stun and E is not nearly as reliable as the Q W combo.

E is nice utility, but it always should be maxed last. The on hit magic damage of the stun auto for E scales with champion level not rank in E.

RabblerouserDec 1, 20161 votes

But you're removing his level 2 all-in, though.

OglafDec 1, 20161 votes

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But you're removing his level 2 all-in, though.

Yeah that's my main concern...

Chamuel85Dec 1, 20161 votes

I thought you waited on R until after your combo so you can break CC. However, yeah, they said they wanted him to do more than combo in a fight. Walk around taking skill shots and maybe AAing someone... but all E did was just that. You still combo in, wonder around aimlessly and AA someone specific. lol

Just make sure you realize it's not your heal anymore. I don't know how many times I messed that up.

RavenhaleDec 1, 20161 votes

I actually only put one point in E and max it out last. A big reason is the 5 stacks next AA bonus dmg stun is based on your level, not your rank of E. I prefer shaving down the seconds on my Q cooldown to match my W cooldown first (though I've had games where I mistakenly lower my W instead).

I think it is justifiable to go R>Q>E>W, since the last three ranks of W potentially mess up your W/Q combo (shouldn't be too notable with 40% CDR though).

If you get all 10 ticks off for the E, the unmitigated damage for each rank of E is 100/125/150/175/200 plus 40% AP. It's definitely a good thing to max out early in the jungle and would also be useful if you boldly go solo Top/Mid. I imagine an AP version of Alistar with RoA, Rylai, Liandry and Abyssal would do quite a bit of damage.

Lost RDec 1, 20161 votes

Just play him and find out for yourself.

OglafDec 1, 20161 votes

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Just play him and find out for yourself.

Doesn't hurt to ask beforehand. Quite the opposite.

Knowing is half the battle.