So Camille keeps getting gutted, but Lee is just fine?

InsaneSamurai·3/23/2017, 11:06:33 AM·11 votes·2,048 views

Basing this on the PBE nerfing her even more

I don't understand the logic in this at all. She isn't as mobile as lee, she might be slightly more survivable under the right conditions if Lee doesn't use his skills to avoid damage at all, and she doesn't do anywhere near his damage.

Why are certain champs allowed to have insane mobility and damage at the same time, but some who have either one or the other get nerfed all to hell?

43 Comments

TricolorStar3/23/2017, 11:21:05 AM14 votes

inb4 Lee mains say "But he's a high-skill character"

He's really, really not. He's complex, but that doesn't make him a high-skill character. What happens if you fuck up and engage wrong? You just E or ward jump out. But fuck up, say, a Bard ult or Taliyah wall? Boom. Game over.

Lee is overloaded, overbearing, annoying, and he makes bad players think they're good. Which is why I'm really not excited about the upcoming Lee Sin skin that literally makes Lee players think they're God (imo that skin proves blatant favoritism towards his flashy, 'lul outplayed', self-satisfactory player base).

Nanuk Pihoqahiak3/23/2017, 11:08:43 AM6 votes

Because she was so overbearing and strong on release she warranted her 8 nerfs or w/e she got in her first couple weeks. She was a god in top lane.

Galiö3/24/2017, 1:28:24 PM2 votes

Lee is an early game champ and needs to land a Q. Camille is strong early and late and has an oppressive ult.

Dynamiku Entry3/23/2017, 2:21:31 PM2 votes

Someone complaining about Camille nerfs when she's still out of line ..........

Down voted on that principle alone.

Croanin3/23/2017, 2:50:11 PM1 votes

Lee's been nerfed and tweeked for years. Camille is new, give it time.

But yea champions with a dedicated playbase get special treatment, since Riot doesn't want them to quit. You think they would have ever tried to make Riven or Lee a bot laner like Mordekaiser?

chipndip13/24/2017, 1:59:20 AM1 votes

Difference: Camille was stupid broken. Lee had his ult nerfed and he's in line now, but he's popular because people THINK he's broken when his high difficulty causes them to feed just as much as they carry.

NGNL Asian3/24/2017, 2:10:33 AM1 votes

Honestly doe, Camille is pretty balanced compared to her old state now, they literally got rid of almost all of her utility, a fair amount of her damage so she cant nuke every character with just an empowered Q aa. Her W is getting even less heals. The only problem that she will ever have is her mana cost if you keep spamming. Look at Lee sin, who df cares if you nerf his ult's base damage, it's barely any, you are still going to oneshot an adc with an 1-2 ad item build, you're still going to live despite building very little tank items, you literally ward hop and kick and land a QQ combo and that will do like almost 90% of any squishy hp no matterwhat.

Lord Galvatron3/23/2017, 12:49:58 PM1 votes

One word: Marcro