I honestly don't think new Galio will be building any AP

MorgManBasher··15 votes·2,061 views

If I were to build any damage at all on new Galio it would probably be AD or sheen items and just take advantage of his passive and all the armor/mr ratios.

item 3748 item 3025

The only AP item I would maybe consider is item 3001 with item 3068 for the early game burn damage. even then I would probably sell it later. His AP ratios just don't seem worth building AP for, just like Sion's AP ratios aren't really worth building for. You start with 1 or 2 item 1056 and that's all the mana regen and damage boost you need early game as E max sion. I feel like this will be the same for Galio.

Other damage item to consider of course would be item 3078 , but I feel as though item 3025 would be better simply because it's cheaper AND it adds to your armor ratios.

Either way though, he looks like fun and I definitely can't wait to try him out. I personally love playing tanks like Sion and this feels a lot like Sion.

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Sire Hippington3 votes

Why ad? He actually has no real ad-ratio, the onlything close to that is passive converting his AA into magic damage and on aoe, but thats it. His ap ratios on Q and e are not that bad actually, and the ult also hurts. However, the main thing is that he certainly wants alot tankiness, so much more ap than roa+abyssal probably won't happen.

MorgManBasher1 votes

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Why ad? He actually has no real ad-ratio, the onlything close to that is passive converting his AA into magic damage and on aoe, but thats it. His ap ratios on Q and e are not that bad actually, and the ult also hurts. However, the main thing is that he certainly wants alot tankiness, so much more ap than roa+abyssal probably won't happen.

I feel like RoA just doesn't bring enough early game to be able to survive top lane and you are much better off just going the standard item 3068 item 3025 top lane. RoA takes too long to scale and just feel the only worth while AP item on Galio is abyssal.

I feel titanic works well simply because you will be in the mix a lot so you can get your passive plus tiamat off over and over and since you'll be building tank and lots of HP, it will scale pretty well. You passive may just be your auto damage but it turns your autos into splash while also going the tiamat splash at the same time. I feel like it would be a solid item that would still add tankiness.

Zero Skill Tank4 votes

AD is, simply put, a vastly superior statistics. Items are way better, and basic attacks have good scaling by default. It takes a really good AP scalings, or a kit directly in conflict with the use of basic attacks before AD becomes not worth it - i.e. Teemo has literally 0 AD scalings, and is often build AD by pros. Fizz has only single basic attack reset, on top of great AP scalings, and still, AD Fizz was popular several times. On many tanks, also ones with no AP scalings, AD runes are better for laning phase than AP runes - or at least very viable alternative.

On Galio, who also has some interaction with MR(cough cough MAW) and basic attack weaving(cough cough triforce), it's almost hard to imagine that AD bruiser build would not be present with his current poor AP scalings.

Fondling Gems2 votes

From playing him a bit RoA seems like a strong purchase that helps out his naturally slow scaling with a fairly safe laning phase and an even stronger mid game spike. Abyssal can be decent into AP Matchups and gives some nice stats since he still scales pretty well with magic pen and Abyssal provides the same functionality as magic pen but vs teams with a lot of AD Spirit seems stronger since you need quite a bit of armour and health to get past Lethality.

IBG has been successful from what I have seen and provides a strong spike. I have yet to see a sunfire cape and I believe this is because Galio already has decent waveclear so he doesn't get much for that and he tends to sit at range until he goes in so it doesn't provide much laning power compared to other tank top laners who will constantly get traded on when they try to CS. Of course that may have to do with people being wary and keeping their distance from Galio since no one really knows his damage output and the people playing him are always eager to fight. This means we could see an emergence of sunfire cape after a couple patches.

Boots all tend to be mercs/tabi from what I have seen. Haven't gotten to late game too many times but GA seems to be the consensus. With Crit still barely existing Randuins aren't making much of an appearance although I imagine the item is still good since he can use it before he activates W. I saw one Void Staff on a very ahead Galio and he was definitely putting out the damage, but eventually he did fall behind in the tank department.


As a side note for those interested he seems very capable of jungling, even able to clear chickens without much issues at level 3. He is a bit mana/CDR dependent early but doesn't have too many issues as mid rolls around. I personally went for runic echoes over cinderhulk since I wasn't sure how hard mana costs would hit. I am pretty sure that with just a hunters potions you are pretty sustainable though so I would probably go cinderhulk next time as I felt very squishy for a lot of the game. He has a pretty decent clear, nothing Vi or Lee speed but definitely a step up from most tank junglers.

ItsBulletTime1 votes

I'll miss AP Galio, but I agree that he's going to be full tank now

SekiroFedTwice1 votes

I definitely think item 3068 and item 3025 will be core on him

Orangesilk1 votes

MPen Galio is where it's at:

item 3001 item 3068 item 3020 item 3065 item 3143

Tanky as hell, hits like a true damage truck when wailing on squishies.

chipndip11 votes

15 magic pen hits like true damage on G&B.

Orangesilk1 votes

I was working with WILDLY outdated information, my bad.

Asayake 5150glow1 votes

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MPen Galio is where it's at:

item 3001 item 3068 item 3020 item 3065 item 3143

Tanky as hell, hits like a true damage truck when wailing on squishies.

You know Abyssal doesn't give Mpen anymore, right?

Orangesilk1 votes

I... I feel like I've been lied to my entire life now.

Asayake 5150glow1 votes

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I... I feel like I've been lied to my entire life now.

Anymore is the key word there, it used to reduce magic resist. Now it's a damage amplifier.

Paroe1 votes

I think item 3027 item 3001 item 1001 item 3068 item 3065 item 3025 might be core. RoA is a fantastic item and galio only really needs 200 or so AP to clear 40 minute waves.

Spoofghoul1 votes

item 3075 item 3068 item 3065

those will be my core items

thornmail seems like a solid idea since you can taunt people and make them hurt themselves while you take no damage

item 3025 also looks good

the ap items i might consider item 3027 item 3116 item 3151 and even then i probably wont build more then 2 ever

i will probably just play him full tank with some extra slows from iceborn or rylais or frozen mallet to go with the new tank keystone

Makharya1 votes

Abyssal seems really good on him, everything synergise so well on him. But yes probably the only AP item on him.

Rylai seems bad, the slow would only be usefull on the Q (othet spell already CC) except if his passive proc it (buf would prefer Iceborn gauntlet).

Matt5211 votes

ROA is going to be core on him for sure. The stats are so nice for a tank that scales well with AP. Galios ratios are pretty nuts imo I think he's gonna be like the new broken maokai.

Asayake 5150glow1 votes

I think it'd depend on his ratios. Galio Q is just damage, so I'm unsure if that's gonna make him a pre-nerf Poppy. His passive is also just flat damage, so either those are gonna be significant, or they'll do nothing, or they'll get bonus damage against minions so he can waveclear.

deadlychuck1 votes

Considering mana costs, i could see him building item 3027 similar to other mage/tanks like mao

Bisaknosp1 votes

i would go full ap xd dont need a 2nd maokai

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