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Surrender vote reduced to 15 minutes?

Windoges··100 votes·4,413 views

Since Riot is targeting shorter games, why force people to play for 20 minutes when most games are decided in about 10-15 minutes?

87 Comments

KVbqbFsC8e16 votes

At the very least, the time required to FF should be reduced when you have someone who DCs/AFKs/Ragequits.

Möral Support9 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Big Piece,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=5Jtg9rrT,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-01-18T21:29:56.666+0000)

At the very least, the time required to FF should be reduced when you have someone who DCs/AFKs/Ragequits.

I think that if someone is AFK for more than 10 minutes in a game it should be an automatic loss prevented.

vOmvbrawfU12 votes

I don't know about that, but if someone AFKs, I should be able to leave the game without a leaverbuster penalty. I'll gladly take the LP lost if I can just get into another game without wasting 35 mins of my life.

Maestro805 votes

Omg this. This this this. Let me take the loss and get on with my life.

vOmvbrawfU5 votes

Too bad it would hurt the fee fees of the "never surrender argggg!!!" sjw so rito won't implement it. They'll just force us to play in a toxic environment.

2Charmnot2Charm1 votes

God i hate those never surrender people.

Lets waste time playing a game that should have been over at 20 minutes cause we are too far behind, it will be fun!

Chances of the team even winning in that situation is already low cause your teammates proved that they can't even play vs the enemy with even gold and will just make more mistakes to throw any lead you gain if the enemy team throws somehow.

MadManApocalypse4 votes

The only time i'm one of those "Never Surrender" people is when I'm playing a late game powerhouse, i'll be damned if i'm playing veigar and have to quit when im only 600 AP

Brisecou2 votes

When you're having free farm and 3/0 as Nasus top and see your 1/7 ADC and 0/8 support.

Midlaner : ff at 20

Me : Bruh

theArtifacts9 votes

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I think that if someone is AFK for more than 10 minutes in a game it should be an automatic loss prevented.

Absolutely not. That would lead to boosting exploits like mad.

Troll for Trump4 votes

Don't see it happening in dota..

theArtifacts2 votes

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Don't see it happening in dota..

Then go play dota. It will be exploited in league. Player is getting boosted by a duo boosting account. Boosting account realizes the game is a loss and AFKs Player is loss prevented and continues boosting.

Troll for Trump2 votes

You could implement the same system in Dota into League

EmollientNut08 votes

Ughhhhh I hate people that use the "WELL GO PLAY ____ THEN" Argument, it's legendarily stupid. Is it that hard to imagine that some games do things better than League Of Legends, or is it a pride thing?

Galihan6 votes

Wouldn't that all be avoided by the specific AFKer (or premade teammates) not getting loss prevented?

theArtifacts1 votes

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Wouldn't that all be avoided by the specific AFKer (or premade teammates) not getting loss prevented?

Valid point that you could make it so duo's can't be loss prevented if the partner is the one to DC. But it still could be exploited.

I, for one, wouldn't mind taking the hit for the team if I know I played horribly and was the cause of the loss.

vOmvbrawfU1 votes

And the team shouldn't be punished for your feeding anyway lol.

The Deckowner10 votes

They said they are planning on introducing 15 minute ff in this season, but it will be a very experimental change.

SSJTribe7 votes

yeah, they said it'd have to be unanimous as well.

LatetotheRace4 votes

Well, I'm voting no so.... Sorry.

GayFluffyUnicorn1 votes

What does unanimous mean in that regard? Can someone elaborate pls? ^.^

SSJTribe1 votes

all 5 players must vote yes for the vote to pass.

Snowman Arc4 votes

I don't understand the hesitation. Leave it there as an option, if people don't want to surrender at 15 minutes, they can click no. But the option to surrender should be there.

MrHaZeYo9 votes

Yes then people can give up winnable games earlier!

LatetotheRace2 votes

^

Kempachi Taichou8 votes

There should remove the surrender option all together. Force people to play smarter and not let bad player ruin more games than necessary...

BIackfox11 votes

[{quoted}](name=Kempachi Taichou,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=5Jtg9rrT,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-01-18T21:02:40.424+0000)

There should remove the surrender option all together. Force people to play smarter and not let bad player ruin more games than necessary...

Ok then option afk exists which you will get every other game.

Fuck you for not ffing a 3-26 game 1-8 towers. You are the people that ruin the game

XxCipiBestxX6 votes

Surrender option should be removed and they SHOULD in theory ban all the ppl who afk, troll or int feed

BIackfox6 votes

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Surrender option should be removed and they SHOULD in theory ban all the ppl who afk, troll or int feed

Thank god they don't listen to people like you or this game would be dying faster then it already is.

Aeszarck6 votes

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Thank god they don't listen to people like you or this game would be dying faster then it already is.

In the spirit of competitiveness, players should always be trying their best to win at all stages of the game, barring negative use of chat towards the enemy team.

BIackfox4 votes

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In the spirit of competitiveness, players should always be trying their best to win at all stages of the game, barring negative use of chat towards the enemy team.

Win games.... That ARE winnable.

Aeszarck6 votes

[{quoted}](name=Sorakas Tits,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=5Jtg9rrT,comment-id=000100010001000000000000,timestamp=2017-01-19T02:17:14.522+0000)

Win games.... That ARE winnable.

I said "[i]n the spirit of competitiveness."

GayFluffyUnicorn5 votes

90% of those "lost" games are winnable in the trash elo most of us play. But instead you type ff, proceed to go from 0/4 to 0/12 instead of getting gud and play smart

BIackfox1 votes

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90% of those "lost" games are winnable in the trash elo most of us play. But instead you type ff, proceed to go from 0/4 to 0/12 instead of getting gud and play smart

Lol I could be 0-5 or 5-0 and if my teammates fed and the game is 5-12 I'm saying ff the game is over. Don't pull this "90%" shit out of your ass asshole.

Brisecou3 votes

Wait, you are that dude spamming the ff when it's 5-12 at 20 minutes ?

So that means you NEVER lost a game where your team went 12-5 ?

XxCipiBestxX1 votes

That's what I wanted to say all along

NastyMcOutplay4 votes

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Ok then option afk exists which you will get every other game.

Fuck you for not ffing a 3-26 game 1-8 towers. You are the people that ruin the game

are you not the one that afks and ints creating such a kill deficit? you are the person that runes this game fucko

Windoges5 votes

We can't really play smarter when you get 4 manned bot and taking first blood tower. In addition, the bot lane tower doesn't even have fortification.

Kempachi Taichou4 votes

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We can't really play smarter when you get 4 manned bot and taking first blood tower. In addition, the bot lane tower doesn't even have fortification.

Then why play? if you cannot defend the four man push, then your team failed with warding, pings, and following their roams....

So yeah, play smarter.

Windoges5 votes

I forgot to put in the fact that 4 people can dive 2 under tower. Turrets are weak as hell right now also.

TyrekGoldenspear8 votes

Just saying, turrets could always only hit one person at a time.

Throw the tankiest guy under the tower first and your three buddies have free rein.

When did it not work this way?

Who is Taliyah5 votes

Riot (Meddler) stated that they're planning on setting surrender to 15 min.

Toru Itai5 votes

5 minute FF plz

LatetotheRace3 votes

Why wait? Forfeit during champ select.

Edgy Katana Man4 votes

"Is that poppy?!" Smashes forfeit button

Toru Itai1 votes

FF during AFK check PLZ!

JustJayson4 votes

I was thinking more like 18min. More often when I think about surrendering I sit there thinking just 2 more min.

Windoges3 votes

A little unrelated to the discussion, but what do you guys think about people not voting at all when your team tries to surrender? I'm not sure if it should be an automatic no or yes.

SnakDatSmilesBak5 votes

Should definitely stay automatic no

RocketRelm1 votes

It would be… incredibly troll for a non-vote to count as yes. Precedent alone would cause anybody who hadn't paid attention to patch notes to be furious when 1 person clicks "surrender", another clicks no, it's a stupid surrender and nobody else pays attention, whoops guess ya lose now el giggle. There's always those games where you're up one tower, two dragons and three kills at 20 minutes but somebody wants to ff@20 anyway just because they, personally, lost lane.

Maestro801 votes

I think an abstain should be an abstain. If you don't vote, you don't care. And let surrender be simple majority. That way feeding troll duos can't hold a game hostage for 40 minutes. So with both abstentions and simple majority, If two people vote yes, one votes no, and two abstain, it should count as a surrender. Ties in this case would not surrender (2 yes, 2 no, 1 abstain for example).

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