There was definitely enough time for you to react to my pings to back off. Maybe because I'm behind compared to my enemy and I could get picked off of very easily. Or because they're an assassin and I can't help at all besides pinging. Warding the river is very helpful too.
I would rather shove my lane to punish them for attempting a roam on bot/top.
BALDG1VEN BOOMER22 votesIf you can't follow always best to push your lane, sometimes enemies would just sit in brushes and wait for you to face check when they go MIA which isn't worth the risk at all.
2Charmnot2Charm11 votesOnly problem is his idiot teammates don't understand that and flame.
RIP Tahm Kench1 votesSo much of this, I get tilted to no end when I see a Morgana/Ahri mid last hitting and not pushing while their Talon/LB/Zed is off ganking bot for the second time this match. Then when their laner gets back, they have an extra burst of gold because the wave wasn't pushed into the tower properly.
And I never get a good response when I ask them why they didn't push into tower: "Why didn't you push your lane or follow?" "I pinged missing a while ago" "But that doesn't answer my question..." "But why did you die then?"
AR URF10 votesWhy didn't you follow your laner? Umm let me see because there's a 50/50 chance at guessing on what lane he/she is going. My ward ran out. Better mobility. I can follow, but 
will get there faster than 
. 
is ahead and will just attack me if I follow. 
has stealth and is currently stronger.
The Trent8 votesSometimes the correct play is to follow your laner though. For example, your allies to react to your pings, but they're at their own turret and have nowhere else to go I would say you should've followed. There are also times where the absolutely worse thing to do is follow your laner. If you don't have wards everywhere and you try to follow a Cass, you're going to die.
Hufflepuff4 votes[{quoted}](name= ŁøveMÿADC,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=3Bn0Z1E1,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-09-08T04:42:38.301+0000)
Sometimes the correct play is to follow your laner though. For example, your allies to react to your pings, but they're at their own turret and have nowhere else to go I would say you should've followed. There are also times where the absolutely worse thing to do is follow your laner. If you don't have wards everywhere and you try to follow a Cass, you're going to die.
If they're at turret and the enemy team is ahead enough to successfully dive them, they should probably go b
Vegas Dad1 votesIf they're at turret and the enemy team is ahead enough to successfully dive them, they should probably go b
Indeed lets identify the real issue though you are bad at laning and thus that is why you are behind and why your lane is roaming. So stop pretending you will ever catch up, or carry and start loading up on wards and ward the sides of your lane so we can see your laner roaming.
Windoges1 votes[{quoted}](name=Vegas Dad,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=3Bn0Z1E1,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2017-09-09T15:33:32.376+0000)
Indeed lets identify the real issue though you are bad at laning and thus that is why you are behind and why your lane is roaming. So stop pretending you will ever catch up, or carry and start loading up on wards and ward the sides of your lane so we can see your laner roaming.
That's why I'm saying to ward the river. so we can SEE where they are roaming
aqours fanboy22 votesIf they are at their own turret and it's a spam ping of danger and they can't fucking take the dive then they shouldn't fucking be there. I will never ever in life as someone like Xerath follow someone like Akali after they MIA. Why? Because I value my fucking life and if bot lane values theirs, they'll either be prepared or be bouncing the fuck out of the lane.
DrCyanide17 votesThe nice thing about Xerath is once you see Akali on the ward your teammates placed in the river (they are doing their part, right?) you can start roaming to at least get into ult range.
LordGeovanni1 votesi mean giving up free objectives isnt exactly what you want to do in this game. that is worse that feeding as it gives map control and unlike feeding the amount of gold enemies get does drop to negligable levels after the 2-4 death
Vegas Dad1 votes[{quoted}](name=We Love Heresy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=3Bn0Z1E1,comment-id=00030001,timestamp=2017-09-08T06:04:02.536+0000)
If they are at their own turret and it's a spam ping of danger and they can't fucking take the dive then they shouldn't fucking be there. I will never ever in life as someone like Xerath follow someone like Akali after they MIA. Why? Because I value my fucking life and if bot lane values theirs, they'll either be prepared or be bouncing the fuck out of the lane.
if you are playing xerath vs akali she should be permanently stuck under her tower not roaming the map dipshit, once again the problem is you are garbage that is why your lane is roaming.
aqours fanboy2 votesMissed the point of my post.
Can Akali back and roam to bot lane while I'm mid? Yes.
Can I ping missing and siege turret and back myself? Yes.
Will be tryna go fucking find Akali to 1v1 her when I don't see her return to lane? No.
The point I'm getting across is that players need to understand the best form of attack is defense. Losing first turret is a whole lot more manageable than losing 2 kills AND first turret.
aspects14 votesyou shouldnt try to contradict the circlejerk they dont even listen to what you say they just downvote you and refuse to accept a thing you say trust me ive tried it
Not xPeke9 votesThis isn't a circlejerk though lol? It's just the truth.
What LoveMyADC said is not wrong, but it doesn't really answer the OP's main point, which is that if you SS and warn that your laner is missing or is coming to your lane with plenty of time to respect the roam, and you stay and die, it's on YOU. Not on the person not following the enemy laner.
Seriously, I don't know if you ever play Mid but.. when you ping SS 5 times in like 10 seconds, the enemy shows on scuttle, 2 wards, + the SS pings, and you're still sitting bot in the middle of the lane CSing minions completely oblivious.. THEN you ping spam me shoving in midlane for not following??? I should be the one ping spamming the sidelane for dying to that HIGHLY telegraphed and expected roam.
This isn't circlejerk, just common sense.
aspects11 votesit is a circlejerk lol the main people who are gonna be reading this are mid laners, who will obv have the same opinion as the OP if you say something or even try to make a reasonable arguement for roaming, they are gonna downvote you to hell and pretty much just say your retarded why?, cause they dont want to feel like their wrong hence why it is indeed a circlejerk you can find some sort of pattern like this in 95% of the posts in gameplay, which is why you have to be very careful how you phrase your arguement if you are posting against the OP
Not xPeke1 votesWhy are you still arguing about what is or what isn't a circlejerk?
And who cares if people downvote you or not. As you can see I'm strictly sticking to (and stayed on) the main subject, something you failed to do in your replies to LoveMyADC and to me ^^.
You didn't even reply to the gameplay related points I brought up to you for example.
aspects11 votesbecause as you clearly didnt notice i never mentioned my opinion on the contents of this thread i was in no way talking about the gameplay, so i obv would not respond to your gameplay related comments i was still argueing in hopes of educating you, but i can clearly see now that my efforts were in vain some people simply refuse to accept their wrong good day
Not xPeke1 votesThe only one in needs of an education is yourself.
I stuck to the gameplay talk to open your eyes, to show you that it's not all a circlejerk if what is being said is correct.. you calling it that is just saltiness. You claim circlejerkers to ignore what you say even if they are reasonable comments.. yet you do the same thing. Ignoring what is said just so you can claim "it's the usual circlejerk". So if I were to say that the sky is blue, would you still call that a circlejerk when people agree with me? It is blue. Just like the OP made a factually correct post. No circlejerk here, just facts.
You're just so butthurt some people have downvoted you in the past that you carry around that weight with you all the time and won't let go it seems..
And what "wrong" are you even talking about? Sharing our opinion is wrong? You just joined a thread to whine about people downvoting, purposely refuse to talk about the actual issue at hand because it's more important to you to complain about circlejerk, and then you claim that some people simply refuse to accept their wrong. The irony ^^.
aspects11 votesi can tell you right now i didnt read a word of your response why? cause you have shown you have nothing intelligent to say
Not xPeke1 voteshahahahahaahaha the irony.
Keep whining and attacking others man. Makes you look real nice. /s
EDIT: You can't cry out "circlejerk" when what is being said is just the truth and a fact... that doesn't disprove what the thread is talking about. That's just a useless attack on the people posting on here. Why you so mad?
aspects11 votesi really dont know what to say maybe you should try to translate this to whatever language it is you understand cause right now, based on your responses, im pretty sure you dont understand english
Not xPeke1 votesIf you're narrow minded and can't understand what I'm saying that's not my problem. Maybe it's you who should pay more attention to what is being said instead of misundertanding and banging on about the same thing without addressing what the other person said.
What's your definition of circlejerk? Was the OP wrong in what he said? Are the people that agree with the OP wrong? You then claim them to be part of a circlejerk for what reason?
What the OP said is factually correct. Why does it make it circlejerk only because people agree with that statement?
And for your information, no one downvoted the guy you initially replied to. I even agree with what he's saying! Ultimately what the guy said doesn't disprove what they OP said though.
So again.. what even is your point? You just popped in to have a go at everyone and call it a circlejerk? Lol. But carry on attacking me, no problem.
Champion Skin1 votesbut they're at their own turret and have nowhere else to go I would say you should've followed
Seems like a bad idea to follow.... either you need to go a dangerous way and risk being jumped on by the enemy mid laner and bot lane.... or go the long way around and risk ending up being too late and just wasting your time (and you also lose gold and exp from not being in lane)
revliledpembroke6 votes"Because I don't have boots!" 
said.
Fairyfleur4 votes[cass-cry]
Shuyin1785 votesIf a fight breaks out near me then I'll go and assist, but if they're a full lane away and moving away from me, there is no point in me wasting my time on that. I'd rather say in lane, get gold, get EXP, and push to tower to deny the enemy laner both things while I also apply pressure on that tower to take it down easier later. People that think "You have to follow your laner when they leave" are bad at the game because it isn't always the best option to do so. Meanwhile if the situation was reversed they would be saying the same things as you about denying things.
Mighty Mortein5 votesI think it's hilarious when I get flamed when I get out-roamed by a TF or Taliyah post 6. Sure, let me just quantum tunnel down to botlane to save your sorry ass. I call out when my laner is 6 if they have amazing roaming potential. And ping MIAs then dangers if both of my lanes haven't backed off a bit into safety. If you live and they roamed for nothing, they lose a fair amount of XP and gold. And their tower gets fairly damaged.
Not xPeke3 votesPeople don't understand that you DON'T have to follow your laner. You can actually get ahead by having your enemy laner waste time, cs, and exp by attempting to roam. All it takes is a team that respects your SS and pings and you will get the upper hand out of the enemy's choice to roam.
When my teammates don't respect my pings and blame me for not following my laner more than twice I just stop pinging SS. It's clearly useless, they don't respect it or even have enough awareness to look at the minimap. My laner probably walks through 3 wards, scuttle, and 10000 danger pings, and they STILL kill you.. then I guess there's no hope for you. Time to not even bother SSing anymore.
Natake3 votesThis applies doubly to Talon and Leblanc and mobile assassins. Spoiler alert: If I'm Ziggs, I can't match a Talon's roam because he jumps over walls.
Pog to the Champ3 votesOr because they shoved and I chose to pick up the 10 farm that will give me a small advantage later on rather than just leave my lane and follow because you're not paying attention to enemy missing pings.
DemainaNyx3 votesI had this happen to me an ARURF where th enemy mid laner was a Nunu and I was Quinn.
Nunu left lane at level 2, I pinged, he appeared top and got a double. "Quinn is the best roamer in the game" was the response I got when I said I couldn't follow. I was a level 2 Quinn. No one is going to be able to keep up with a blood boil spam Nunu unless they have a speedup themselves.
Rainfall2 voteseverytime i play a mage against an assasin i have to explain to my team that if i follow zed/talon he will just turn and probably just kill me or stay in a bush and wait for me to appear,so i just push the lane. Most of the times they dont complain since i ping danger on top of them a couple of times.
Project Riven2 votesReasons why your mid laner did not follow:
Given #4, a lot of people waste time trying to answer the enemy mid lane's roam. Unless you're playing TF, you shouldn't waste time running through river to try and counter roam. Instead, just push and get the turret.
Mr New Booty1 votes3 is huge early
Starcraft243ver1 votesWell you can actually follow using the safe path in your jungle if you got a control ward in there (and you should have one).
Kloqdq1 votesI have seen this excuse over the years so many times and I just wish people could understand, I can't always follow it. It's really that simple.
Draden1 votesAs a mid laner you gain a lot of advantage if that assassin wastes time roaming and you team punished them by avoiding the fight. If they don't get a fight, the fall so far behind. Let them waste their time, take the advantage they are literally handing to you. Roaming just removes that advantage and opens the door for the roaming (usually someone who NEEDS to get kills) to get ahead.
Altonius Amakiir1 votesWhen people say that, what they're really complaining about is that you only pinged missing, you didn't tell/signal a lane they were incoming. In other words no one knows where they went(and sometimes people assume they backed or they're not coming to their lane because of that).
Starboyˇ1 votesWhy did you ping missing by the time I'm already dead
Gelmous1 votesit's amazing how a losing mid laner can lose the game for everyone else
Draden1 votesIt's amazing how many times you can ping missing and careful, for the bot lane to flame you for pinging as they died to the roaming mid you have been pinging them about.
Martyrofsand1 votesJust be aware if you don't follow your laner and your bot lane dies to a 2v4 tower dive you share some of the responsibly for that because you left them hanging and the risks for the enemy team in diving a 2v4 situation vs a 3v4 situation is very significant, and often times your presence alone can make them back off even if you are not super fed. If they do make that 2v4 dive and walk away with 2 kills, first turret and dragon then yeah you played a big role in letting them get such a lead as you afk farmed your lane.
Draden1 votesIf that's the case, is it then partly the bot lanes fault if the mid roams down to help and gets pinched in the Jung? Didn't think so. If they are fast pushing the lane and a dive is incoming, you need to leave, they made the play, don't give them more.
It's then on your mid and jungle to punish them by ganking top, trading towers, taking rift, counter jungling, etc. usually going down there is only delaying the inevitable.
Ever see the best players? they concede the tower and take other objectives, it's simply not worth it.
Disulfiram1 votesThe funniest is when you ping "mia" because the enemy is recalling, then 2 minutes later he turns up bot and you get asked why didn't you follow. What am I supposed to do, stroll into their base to check where is he going?
JayQuillin1 votesI know this thread is a year old but I experoemced this bullshit in my recent ganes and I need to writr down some Frustration. I dont want tonportray a perfect player here. I also sometimes miss ss calls or I am sometimes brain dead but at least I qdmit my mistakes then. But how on Earth can you blame your midlaner when he just went base, called SS like 300 times, pinged to be careful bot side and you still die both. Some people even have Wards and can loterally see that someone is coming by themselves and there is still no reaction. Another situation: Youbgot 303947 wards in your jungle and tons of wards at dragon pit yet still the botlane somehow manages to oversee 4 people heading into botlane trying to dive them. How can ypu blame your midlaner for this. I am sick kf getfing blamed for other peoples mistake. It reached a point where I legit thought that these were potentially my mistakes but there is no way. Every Situation would have turnes out in my favour if the botlane would just back off. and let me push out my midlane. So I can also try to roam a bit.