Why can't Lux kill the backline minions with 1 spell?

Swarovsko··3 votes·2,815 views

I don't want you guys to buff her E for sure, she's in a balanced spot with her strengths and weaknesses, but why can't she clear a wave in less than 7-13 seconds? Annie Ahri Syndra Cassiopeia Brand Veigar Velkoz and many other mages are all able to kill the backline minions in less than 2-5 seconds. Even Zyra can push faster than her. You could say "she can AA the minions after using her E" but she's usually this champion who hugs the tower since everyone wants to camp the typical mid laner with no mobility, doing that is also risky vs champions like Fizz Syndra Cassiopeia Ryze Katarina Yasuo and maybe others.

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Kaioko4 votes

I'll answer you as a Lux Main - it's mainly because she's a long range mage who unlike other mages - can easily combo her spells from that range. To make up for that she's given slightly weaker clear and longer CDs.

In all honesty though, unless I'm doing poorly I can always one shot the back line with just one E after getting Morello.

Swarovsko1 votes

If you manage to get 1/2 kills and farm pretty well you can buy morello in like 13/15 min (even less) and yes, you can push pretty easily, but as I said she's usually camped, especially if she's doing well. Also, why pushing has to be one of her weaknesses? Xerath has pretty much the same range and yet he has no problem with keeping the lane pushed, even when camped. Every mage is able to push and kill with a whole combo, why Lux can't have that too? It just doesn't feel fair to me.

Maximum Morde2 votes

She can with some AP. Most champions can't insta clear until they get some levels and an item.

RexSaur2 votes

They could give her some minion damage % bonus on her E, so that would buff her waveclear a bit (which is pretty terrible without ult) without buffing her dmg to champs.

For whoever say she has huge range thats why she has bad wave clear, Xerath can kill whole waves from his tower with 2 spells.

Blumpkin Nation1 votes

Probably because she is a long range nuke mage. The only way to get her is to have incredible diving champions who can tank a turret or 100-0 in 2 seconds (Zed/Lee Sin for insta kills or Rammus/Poppy for sustained diving) or by forcing her to CS in basic attack range. Which is why her E doesn't insta-kill caster minions unless she gets far ahead and has 150+ AP at 7 minutes.

It's supposed to make her vulnerable during laning phase. Once that is over, she's behind with her carry to peel or to get picks.

Swarovsko1 votes

Xerath has more range than Lux with his Q, and he can push/kill minions easily too, just like every other mage. It just doesn't feel fair but I guess she's still ok

Blumpkin Nation2 votes

I didn't say Lux had the longest range in the game. I just meant-- Because of how she works as a whole. She is able to cast her E while moving away and gaining distance making it hard to catch her if she's at max range. Xerath has longer range because he becomes immobile or less mobile during all of his spells. Q requires a charge up and while it is easy to land if you're good with movement predicting/timing still causes him to wast 1-2 seconds charging and reduces his movement speed.

Xerath is more sustained damage because his ult has charges in which have a travel time and small aoe. Lux can insta-burst 2 people if she lands a binding since she can throw it out in 2 seconds or less. Xerath has 1-1.5 seconds to kill one target if he lands his stun. Even then, ulting means he is rooted in place. It leaves him open for that time which some champions can abuse. Lux, once popping her load onto you, can walk away in that 1-2 seconds where Xerath has 3-4 seconds to bust his load and leave.

Plus, I'd say people are more comfortable playing Lux because she has a shield, a two person root, an AoE scouting tool that has a slow, and uber damage with ult. + She's a girl and that laugh is ultimate taunt.

Xerath got reworked and while he's actually better, no one is interested in playing a long ranged sustained damage mage when they insta-gib someone much quicker.

Ziggs has more range than Lux, but his damage is unreliable in mid-lane so he's being taken bot to siege and get the turret quicker since he's safer in that role when pushing.

tl;dr Lux can't clear minions in the backlane because her main clear is her E+Passive and both have utility attached to them.

Scruberz1 votes

She can once she finishes morello's...

sit kid1 votes

Because Riot balance team is braindead

They don't know how much of a luxury it is for mages to have instant waveclear in lcs. Think about it. Viktor was in early S6 top tier. E gets nerfed by 5 damage per rank and suddenly he is trash tier. All because he is oneshotting waves a level after he used to.

Trap or a Trick1 votes

r? :^)

Swarovsko1 votes

:^)

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

Just grab a item 3285 .

Or...

Wait till mid game when you build 45% CDR and can use your ult for instant waveclear. XD

Fun times... fun times...

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