Velkoz Buff Doesn't Address the Core Issues

U Just Got Slain·7/10/2018, 10:33:36 PM·40 votes·13,014 views

I have played Vel'Koz since his release, hovered around high diamond/master tier with playing him. While I am glad to see buffs, I don't think increasing the ratio by 20% on his spammable ability is the right way.

I agree with the Q needing a slight buff (maybe 70% instead of the proposed 80%) to just give it a little extra oomph, but Vel'Koz's main problem is the lack of reliability he has for hitting his skills AND his lack of mobility. Both are healthy areas to have weaknesses in, but when a majority of the champion pool has a way to gap close or dash, it puts Vel'Koz in a very weak spot. I think an appropriate buff would be to increase the missile speed on his E (suspension) or duration on the suspension (since it can be reduced by tenacity). I can understand the hesitance on buffing a hard cc, but as League has grown, so has the amount of mobility and the danger of missing the only hard cc in his kit. Just buffing damage won't solve any of his core problems.

**tldr; **Buff Vel'Koz's E to increase his self-peel and combo set up instead of solely increasing his damage.

37 Comments

Vanic9987/11/2018, 12:26:59 AM12 votes

Exactly. As I always said, Vel’Koz has all the damage he needs. His issue is he’s not reliable at dealing it because of his shitty e. His e is THE WORST SKILLSHOT IN THE GAME. I really wanted riot to increase his suspension duration by at least .25 sec from .75 sec to 1 sec. I also said recently that I’d be pissed if they buffed his damage. His q is also the worst ability to increase damage. W Would have been the best place to increase damage since it’s useless without e. Q is actually Vel’Koz’s best ability. It’s the last ability that needs buffing. I really hope riot changes the buff.

FireDrizzle7/11/2018, 4:08:40 AM9 votes

Increasing missile speed on E is a good change, a better one would be nerfing the fucking damage on this game so you dont die before the E works.

VełKoz Bot7/11/2018, 8:01:35 AM5 votes

I'll take any buff I can get, please and thank you. [sg-jinx]

Ayzev7/11/2018, 9:23:22 AM5 votes

This seems like a trend with Rito, where they buff champions where they are strong instead of where they are weak. Kha'zix is able to kill lone targets, but can't do anything when people are together? Buff isolation damage. ADCs do well late-game, but can't get to late game? Buff their late game. Vel'koz can't hit E for shit, while Q is easier to hit, reaches further and does twice the damage? Buff Q.

Almighty7/11/2018, 6:27:56 AM5 votes

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Cosnirak7/11/2018, 3:54:37 AM4 votes

How about just increasing his durability? Give me 2 armor & mr, and a few more hp/lvl on Vel and I'll be happy. I want to not die from 100% hp with both summoners up just because one person decided to focus me.

Tahminatrix 7/10/2018, 11:04:38 PM3 votes

His e isn't a knockup, its unfortunately just a stun that moves enemies back think nami bubble

Confirmed by a yasuo who couldn't ult...

If they wanted to truly put vel koz where he needs to be they would need to make tanks just as important as squishy adcs/glass cannons

LatetotheRace7/11/2018, 6:59:51 PM3 votes

How about we start with fixing his E bug, when he casts it on death but it doesn't actually cast. Visibly shows up for the vel'koz player, but no one else. :c

EasternBladeStar7/12/2018, 12:56:42 AM3 votes

How 'bout starting by fixing his E disappearing if you die after the cast but before it lands?

How 'bout upping the missile speed on his E and W by 10-20% ?

No? There's the Riot way - buff all DA DEMAGE NUMBAHS!

Noor Sakata7/11/2018, 12:38:04 PM2 votes

Same thing goes for Ahri

Nausicäa 7/11/2018, 1:16:16 AM2 votes

Ya, bigger and or faster E would be great.

ImGodlyatYasuo7/11/2018, 3:29:01 AM2 votes

No that proposed E buff makes no sense and forces more mobility creep. I know it has to suck dealing with dashes on a champion like vel koz along with any other mage (As a syndra main i can confirm its annoyance) but thats not the direction it should go. I think velkoz should get a more general buff to his base AD to increase general csing and harassing in lane over any ability buff atm.

softest boy7/12/2018, 12:32:02 AM2 votes

Shut up and just enjoy more damage!!! -Riot

We really don't need it tho... but we could definitely use some-- -actual vel'koz players

we said... shut up... and take your free damage... -riot

GrReaper967/12/2018, 1:21:48 AM2 votes

Vel need more ANALyzing

BestPudgeNA7/11/2018, 2:57:31 PM1 votes

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main problem is the lack of reliability he has for hitting his skills AND his lack of mobility.

Those are supposed to be his main weakness...

Ki Koz7/11/2018, 7:15:16 AM1 votes

As a Vel'Koz main with over 1,2M points and 1500+ games, I totally agree with this. His Q doesn't needed this buff, I mean yeah he will be strong against the matchups he used to be already strong, but that's all.. I think it would be better to buff his slow duration on the Q instead of the damage. Or to increase the suspending duration on his E by 0.10 - 0.15 seconds to land a good combo if you manage to hit them by E. Or increasing making his E faster to land not by much (so it can be dodged) but this would help him a lot. He has the damage on point, no need of increasing. As said he just needs to increase his self-peel. Velkoz

KlydeFrog7/11/2018, 11:01:29 PM1 votes
  • He only needs rylais and liandrys to delete people
Meep Man7/12/2018, 2:27:06 AM1 votes

Sounds like you need to be ANALyzing in-game situations better.

Hyquiem7/10/2018, 11:05:50 PM1 votes

No buff velkoz’s range he’s an artillery mage anyway.

Giga Baboon7/12/2018, 1:32:34 PM1 votes

Meddler: but but but 20 damage.....

That's literally all he knows how to do, take 20 damage off an ability, add it back on, take off, add it back on

What a god, guy went to 8 years of schooling for that, you couldn't do what he does, guy can fix airplanes even though he can't fly them buddy

Evil Bisex Plant7/11/2018, 1:16:54 PM1 votes

hovered around high diamond/master tier

We noticed, don't assume we didn't. Now, get the fuck out.

Naymliss7/11/2018, 1:25:31 PM1 votes

but when a majority of the champion pool has a way to gap close or dash

Increasing the missle speed isnt going to help against these champions. Its just going to make him extremely oppressive against no mobility champions.