Tristana isn't in a good state. (Enhance her E passive)

PentaJump··3 votes·994 views

Currently, Trist has the lowest win rate out of any ADC aside from Urgot. http://champion.gg/champion/Tristana

It would be nice to see her back at her pre-rework level of power. However, I think that Trist has a nice kit that could be changed to give her more power without simply buffing her stats or her numbers. Some years ago, Trist had a bug where her e passive would proc whenever she killed a minion. Currently, it only procs if she kills it with an auto attack. However, back then, it would proc if she killed the minion with an ability as well. This meant that she could chain-react minions to death with her e passive procing multiple times from one auto attack. It also meant that she could blow up an enemy if she jumped onto a pile of minions that they were standing in. At the very least, make her w proc her e passive if it kills a minion.

I think this should be brought back because:

  1. This gives Trist some more strategic decisions. Jumping into a pile of minions means she is going to be in trouble if she doesn't finish off her enemy. It also means that certain times are better to jump in than other times.
  2. She can only do this if her enemy makes a mistake. And it's not like this is a mistake that is hard to avoid.
  3. It is unique. Trist is currently the only champion that can directly punish an enemy for standing on their minions. However, the effect is fairly underwhelming, and doesn't define her play style. By enhancing the ability, she will be an even more unique champion.

9 Comments

DisasterSola2 votes

I.... what the hell are you smoking? Tristana is even more powerful than before. He E active absolutely nukes towers and can secure kills like a zilean on steroids.

Pandemic Punch1 votes

Twitch is lower. Buff Twitch!summoner 12

PentaJump1 votes

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Twitch is lower. Buff Twitch!summoner 12

Nope. With a 45.61% win rate, Trist is lower than Twitch.

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I.... what the hell are you smoking? Tristana is even more powerful than before. He E active absolutely nukes towers and can secure kills like a zilean on steroids.

They nerfed her lategame pretty significantly by lowering her range as well as her AS. This has resulted in her having a drastically lower win rate than prior to the rework.

Pandemic Punch1 votes

You are wrong. However, now twitch is lower than Urgot! Gee Geeeee

SEKAI1 votes

It is unique. Trist is currently the only champion that can directly punish an enemy for standing on their minions.

No babe, lemme introduce you to the Huehue master, Mordekaiser.

I say actually try to play around her new kit, 1 week or so is too quick to judge her change's real value.

PentaJump1 votes

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No babe, lemme introduce you to the Huehue master, Mordekaiser.

I say actually try to play around he new kit, 1 week or so is too quick to judge her change's real value.

Morde doesn't instantly punish the person. They have the chance to walk away from the minion before they receive any significant damage, due to it being DoT.

Also, no matter how you rank her abilities, or what you build her, she doesn't achieve the winrate she used to have. I don't think her kit is complex enough that that will change too much.

SEKAI1 votes

He does actually, if you read into his kit (I used to main the hell of this guy) his damage are mostly instant and aoe and that's precisely why Morde is a punisher of minion huggers. Such are his Q and E, and especially his E. W can sorta count but that's not his main source of damage, it's more of a defense option.

His ulti is DoT though.

Not to mention his passive makes him one of the best duelist in the game under 2 conditions:

  1. There are plentiful of minions around.
  2. Enemies don't intent to run away.

Anyways I don't personally play Tris nor do I look into her much to begin with so I wouldn't have the right to judge her current state, but I would just say, give it some time.

PentaJump1 votes

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He does actually, if you read into his kit (I used to main the hell of this guy) his damage are mostly instant and aoe and that's precisely why Morde is a punisher of minion huggers. Such are his Q and E, and especially his E. W can sorta count but that's not his main source of damage, it's more of a defense option.

His ulti is DoT though.

Not to mention his passive makes him one of the best duelist in the game under 2 conditions:

  1. There are plentiful of minions around.
  2. Enemies don't intent to run away.

Anyways I don't personally play Tris nor do I look into her much to begin with so I wouldn't have the right to judge her current state, but I would just say, give it some time.

Dealing AoE damage isn't the same as punishing someone for standing with minions. Morde does enhanced damage to a target if they are standing alone, in fact, due to his q. Sure, he gains more tankiness if he hits more units, but that's not really punishing the enemy like I meant. That's a defensive interaction.

SEKAI1 votes

Once you get a revolver, you should check out how spammy his E is.

That's where the terror lies. As he hits in a cone instantly with no warning and it's spammable as long as he has hp, damage isn't bad too.

Too bad he isn't mobile nor does he has cc otherwise he is pure cancer lol.

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