Keep Normals Draft and Replace Blind With Team Builder

P0IS0N IVY·Nov 9, 2016·53 votes·1,271 views

Please. No one likes the speed copy pasta fest that is blind.

And no one wants to be forced into ranked.

34 Comments

GeauxxNov 9, 20163 votes

more people use blind draft than normal draft, why get rid of blind if it's more used?

P0IS0N IVYNov 9, 20162 votes

There's no such thing as blind draft.

Team builder allows blind picking without having to call your role.

GeauxxNov 9, 20162 votes

Ok let me change that one word to "pick" instead of "draft", back to my statement, why get rid of the more used mode and keep the not used very much mode?

Because that statement doesn't give a decent reasoning.

P0IS0N IVYNov 9, 20161 votes

We're not getting rid of a mode. Team Builder is just an improvement of blind pick.

GeauxxNov 9, 20162 votes

Not really, i prefer blind over teambuilder and draft. So how's it an improvement?

Your opinion doesn't = everyones.

P0IS0N IVYNov 9, 20163 votes

And I prefer team builder over blind for reasons already stated.

Your opinion doesn't = everyones.

Lord BoltrixNov 9, 20161 votes

I believe this is what they call to be 'hoisted by one's own petard.'

GeauxxNov 10, 20161 votes

Since my opinion falls into the majority instead of the minority, it kind of does within this situation, nice try though.

Since blind is more used.

P0IS0N IVYNov 10, 20161 votes

Majority =/= everyone. Same with minority.

Nice try tho.

Now quit being condescending and actually get back on topic.

MirkhailNov 9, 20161 votes

still team builder had a very low population compared to blind at the time.

OglafNov 9, 20161 votes

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Ok let me change that one word to "pick" instead of "draft", back to my statement, why get rid of the more used mode and keep the not used very much mode?

Because that statement doesn't give a decent reasoning.

Because Blind is cancer. It is the most toxic game structure/setup imaginable. The Draft mode helped prevent this. There's a reason why Worlds is being played this way rather than Bland. Painfully obvious reasons.

GeauxxNov 9, 20161 votes

Ok, Then is why is used far more than draft?

LeeerzeichenNov 9, 20161 votes

The blind picking part is the worst part about blind pick. I like blind pick because it has super fast queue times + a super short championselect and working fill system, team builder has non of that. If team builder should really return it should replace draft pick normals.

DoktorKaiserNov 9, 20162 votes

Isnt it better to remove shitty Normal Draft that nobody plays and is exact same fucking copy of Ranked without 1 single original thing, and replace it with Team Builder which also has you select roles but actually has something original to it. They will never never remove Blind, understand that, its played by the majority of players...

DonKeithNov 9, 20161 votes

well im not sure about getting rid of blind draft, but i love the idea about bringing back team builder, it definitely helped me learn new champs and learn about that role

P0IS0N IVYNov 9, 20163 votes

There's no such thing as blind draft.

DonKeithNov 9, 20161 votes

lol i meant blind pick

AirKingNeoNov 9, 20162 votes

well blind draft exists in rotating game modes.

P0IS0N IVYNov 9, 20163 votes

Blind means you do not get to see the enemy team and there are no bans.

Draft means there are bans and the teams take turn picking, so you can see the enemy team.

There is no such thing as blind draft.

NickssaaNov 9, 20161 votes

Ever played Ascension? it uses blind draft where each team get 3 bans, afterwards its regular blind pick except 6 champs are banned

P0IS0N IVYNov 9, 20161 votes

If you want to consider the draft part only the ban part, then yes, it would fit. I define draft as the bans and being able to see the enemy team tho.

NickssaaNov 10, 20161 votes

This is what Riot called it, not me

AirKingNeoNov 9, 20161 votes

URF is blind draft, it's even what it's called.

P0IS0N IVYNov 9, 20161 votes

I'll take your word for it since I can't check :P

DrakylonNov 10, 20161 votes

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Blind means you do not get to see the enemy team and there are no bans.

Draft means there are bans and the teams take turn picking, so you can see the enemy team.

There is no such thing as blind draft.

Actually, Blind Draft does exist; it's the champion select mode that's used for modes such as URF (and variants, but not random), One For All and I believe also Hexakill. There's banning phase, then afterwards there's a blind pick-esque picking phase where everyone picks at the same time while not being able to see the other side.

P0IS0N IVYNov 10, 20161 votes

Yeah we mentioned that above.

EbonyBladeJ88Nov 9, 20161 votes

I don't get what was wrong with Team Builder mode. You got to pick the champ you wanted, and as long as you were patient enough, got them in the ROLE you wanted. While in Blind Pick, you're lucky to get your preferred spot once every blue moon. And even then, another player will most likely argue with you over it. (I may be wrong, having gone to Normals Draft since it's inception to escape the salty nightmarish wasteland of Blind Pick.)

LeeerzeichenNov 9, 20161 votes

But if you don't want to play a certain role blind pick was basically your only option, because let's face it, if you select fill in draft you will be support. Another reason for blind pick is that you can influence the role that your going to fill (choice between adc and supp, quickly writing jgl after top and mid get selected, etc.).

EbonyBladeJ88Nov 9, 20161 votes

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But if you don't want to play a certain role blind pick was basically your only option, because let's face it, if you select fill in draft you will be support. Another reason for blind pick is that you can influence the role that your going to fill (choice between adc and supp, quickly writing jgl after top and mid get selected, etc.).

Like I said in my comment, I may be wrong on my views of Blind Pick, because I often got placed with less-than-friendly people so I might have been a bit biased in my feelings on it.

CalabokNov 9, 20161 votes

getting rid of all non-ranked draft is a good thing. force all people to play ranked means more less time waiting for your role selection and higher chance of getting your main pick

OglafNov 9, 20161 votes

Because people want to play overpowered Champions that are banned in any sane game.

Because of the stupid need to have X amount of Champions to be able to play Draft (they really should either give all >1000 IP Champs for free to new accounts or expand the free Champion rotation pool).

The latter suggestions would've been far, faaar better than just removing Draft altogether.

AcidaliaNov 9, 20161 votes

RIOT PLEASE! we need team builder back

ArchaceNov 9, 20161 votes

I dont even care about team builder with the new champ select, but I do not want to be forced to play ranked. I would much rather just play normals without going into the hellhole of blindpick