Ranked Updates
Thesis: The idea of having a solo/duo queue is a wonderful thing, and I love the idea of having a 3's and 4's queue as well. However even in ranked teams there are some massive balancing issues that your algorithmic system cannot even hope to identify and stacking 3's and 4's into a solo duo queue is only going to make climbing the ladder more impossible. Reasoning and Logic: I go into a ranked game with 100 games as Riven, I am comfortable as Riven. The opposing team picks an off-neta top laner that I do not know how to fight or a jungler that has just had a massive buff that I am unable to read into. My team doesn't communicate well or place much vision. Their team communicates like a well trained special forces unit and places wards like they are getting paid to play. We are 80% likely to lose this game. 4 man teams entering into a non-team queue are not a good idea however you want to spin it, Because they may not be a good 4 man team, and this will produce a negative experience for anonymous player 5. The report system would be the fallback for the 5th player, but it still does not create a good experience for player 5. 3 Man ranked queue for rift is not as horrible because of the statistics involved as followed In a perfect scenario 5/5 Players are great! 100% great experience 4/5 Players are great 80% great experience 3/5 Players are great 60% great experience 2/5 Players are great 40% great experience 1/5 players are great 20% great experience 0/5 Players are great 0% great experience This is based on only one five-man team a great player: communicates well, places good vision, makes good decisions while playing.
If you put 4 bad players into a queue with 1 good player you have a 20% chance of having a good time correct by this logic. "I would rather fuck myself than deal with those odds." I already go solo with 4 random people plenty enough to say that it has been the worst online experience of my life. I get called bronze or retard and everything else you can ever think of by people that have nothing better to do than belittle my playstyle. Meanwhile this just turns me more likely to become the player that is toxic.
Here are the stats for you Solo Queue Bronze II no form of communication other than pings and chat 3's Silver III 5's Unranked (Sadness we can't hardly get all 5 of us together) this is an in-home or talk client based team Assuming that all 3 of our players are great and we have a 55% win rate that means that 45% of the time we are getting outplayed and counter picked. In solo queue I have 20% win ratio which shows that I have been surrounded by people that I cannot effectively communicate with or have helped me to tilt because of their behavior and their way of playing. Overall in the last two seasons of gameplay I would like to speak openly about the communty becoming more unstable. We have too many children playing (People with a child like mentality to be specific) There is not enough etiquette on the table.
Conclusion: Solo/Duo Queue Ranked Queue 1-5 players looking for a queue (for players willing to TRASH CAN! not Trash Can't) Ranked Team Queue
with this scenario here are the outputs Solo/Duo 5: 1 man players 2: duo players and a 1 man player 1: duo players and 3 1 man players
Ranked Queue 5: 1 man players 2: duo players and a 1 man player 1: duo players and 3 1 man players 1: Trio Players and 1 Duo Players 1: Trio players and 2 single man 1: four man and 1 single
Let us decide which path we want to take and please take note of the experiences inside of these new queues. You want the best community of players, and we want the best gaming experience. This is a co-dependent relationship Riot. We need you and you need us so please put some thought into collecting data and providing feedback. If the overall outcome is less than 70% good scrap it. Because you don't want a C+ doctor and I don't want a C+ game. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- SCENARIOS (what is commonly seen in trollbuilder (AKA teambuilder) and Blind Queues
(team) teemo: I could really use a gank rengar I'm behind badly and losing lane (team) rengar: stop feeding and creep under your turret (team) teemo: i can't they are diving my turret (team) rengar: well if you didnt feed and suck so bad that wouldn't happen (team) teemo: fuck you rengar All Rengar: Please report our teemo for feeding.
What this scenario should look like. (In my house this is usually a conversation when one of us is having a bad lane)
(team) teemo: I could really use a gank rengar I'm behind badly and losing lane (team) rengar: stop feeding and creep under your turret (team) teemo: i can't they are diving my turret (team) rengar; Ahri can you help teemo while I gank bottom? (team) Ahri: no I am pushed badly (team) rengar: teemo don't try to save that turret it's not worth the kill, back away try to trade a little but let them have it if they 2v1 you again, and go gank mid or farm my jungle. (team) teemo: ok thanks. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
