I don't even play Yorrick and I feel bad for it's player base.

MorgManBasher··61 votes·16,362 views

The champion honestly sucks, especially in high elo where people know how to play against it. Is he such a low ELO stomper where you felt he needed nerfs? Like, in my mind this champ needed buffs not nerfs.

Rarely see this poor guy as it is, why on earth would you nerf him?

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Unstoppable Monk21 votes

He's just okay in high elo, but no one really plays him at a high level in NA.

Forced an entire mechanic that is the base part of the champion to be unplayable and unrewarding the entire game.

"qq i stand in ghouls and die, yorick kills towers too fast by using his -ultimate- with a cooldown of 100+, when he gets objectives i lose rito nerf pls" = the voice of god according to rito

Stephenizgod2 votes

It is so sad, no one even realizes that the Mist Walkers die in 1 hit each. They spam their AoE's and complain "OMG THEY DONT DIE" ... try auto-attacking them?

They complain about his Maiden "OMG HE IS UNKILLABLE WITH MAIDEN"... don't fight him while its up and wait for its stupid AI to make it walk under a fuckin turret for no reason.

Like Yorick being balanced entirely around his Mist Walkers was part of the reason he was never going to be popular and that was intended. They didn't want him being a meta-pick. Now they nerf it because some people don't know how to read? What is the point of him existing then?

Morticianjohn13 votes

He got played once in pro play and the casters were like.... well this is boring. I think they just don't want him showing up in pro play again.

Frosted Tips10 votes

I saw him consistently in Plat winning games not because he did well but because he can split push to well and was so safe. He just needs nerfs so he can't take towers in 2 seconds while 0/8

MorgManBasher28 votes

I mean, if he was 0-8 does the champion actually need nerfs when it's int-ing your games giving out free gold? How is him going 0-8 safe?

Again, I don't play this champion. To me he's just super terrible unless someone doesn't know how to play against him and he doesn't lose lane and gets to have his split push dream, otherwise I'd rather just have a Tryndamere

Frosted Tips4 votes

He is safe when he gets items and lvls he is terrible is early but can destroy towers quick at all parts of the game. Plus get rift with him is aids.

Z3Sleeper9 votes

Sounds familiar Nasus Tryndamere Jax

Unstoppable Monk4 votes

Except Yorick has no escapes against mobile kits unlike those.

Capn Of Capns1 votes

I understand your point except for Nasus Putting Yorick's W down in the jungle can completely block the way past for the entire enemy team who have to stop and kill it. Just me nitcpicking though, Jax takes towers faster than Yortick and Trynd's escape/survival is stupidly good.

Unstoppable Monk2 votes

How exactly does putting a W in the jungle help escape in a lane again?

Capn Of Capns1 votes

You didn't say anything about a lane, quit moving goalposts.

Nasus can escape a single person better than Yorick can. Yorick can block an entire team if he positions it right, and at the least slow them down. Neither of them has an actual escape, but their cc can let them try to run away.

Unstoppable Monk1 votes

It's not moving goalposts when it proves that Yorick is not a safe champion. But be a pseudo intellectual all you want by claiming logical fallacies, it's the league boards after all.

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Ulquiorra01231 votes

You misunderstand Yorick completely. That champion can be 0-20 and still win the game because he just split pushes all game. Most people outside of masters/challenger don't understand to grab baron with a lead. Which means you do not have a way to deal with him as he is one of the best splitters in the game.

It isn't about how strong he is, its more about what he can do with so little. Do I agree with the nerf, not really, I would much rather force people to learn how to play against it similar to Nasus. Overall though, I do understand why it happened.

Unstoppable Monk5 votes

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You misunderstand Yorick completely. That champion can be 0-20 and still win the game

You boosted there m8?

y0r1ck13 votes

Yorick is not a safe split pusher. He is about as safe as nasus.

Unstoppable Monk2 votes

Nasus is 50% safer early game, though.

Malevolent Metal5 votes

But the split-push problem comes from his Q and not the ghouls... They could have just reverted his Q so it doesn't damage towers. That would have been a good nerf and it wouldn't have gutted his 1v1 potential.

y0r1ck2 votes

This 8.17 nerfs his waveclear HEAVILY. A tiamat item is now mandatory, as opposed to optional before this nerf. With the extra ad I've been building since the conqueror/ghoul fix, along with the extra auto reset, I can see myself taking towers EVEN FASTER than before this nerf. Of course this is hypothetical, but I think it's likely.

Jerry SeinfeId1 votes

ghouls were hit to make the change affect low elo more than high elo afaik.

Unstoppable Monk3 votes

It affected every elo

Jerry SeinfeId1 votes

I mean probably a nerf is still a nerf. But that was riot's reasoining, it's not that hard to imagine ghouls being more effective in low elo and thus hitting him harder there.

Unstoppable Monk2 votes

Reason has nothing to do with the kneejerk changes. Lower elo Yorick utilize minions less, so it's backwards logic.

Jerry SeinfeId1 votes

you can keep telling me this shit but that's not gonna change what** RIOT**'s reasoning was.

And reason has everything to do with it. that's their reason for nerfing that specific part of him.

Unstoppable Monk1 votes

The changes are a far cry from anything logical. Drastically gutting a champion over a meta fluke is anti-reason.

Jerry SeinfeId1 votes

again, i'm just telling you what riot said.

i only played him once in aram recently and played garen into one a little while ago. But not after the nerfs.

Unstoppable Monk1 votes

So talking about a champion you have no idea about, but riot said so it must be true.

It isn't.

Jerry SeinfeId1 votes

It's still why they did it tho. you can sit here making accusations towards me but i never said anything about wether i think it was a good change or not. I just gave riot's reasoning for hitting the ghouls instead of the Q.

I'm literally just trying to make it clear why riot thought this was the right way to go, not wether it actually was or not.

you really need to chill ma dude.

kneel on Ice9 votes

and Buff MasterYi [sg-janna]

DeusVult8 votes

Because playing Yorick doesnt feel good for the other team. Playing against him is like playing against tryn, you can beat him in lane but he will continue to split and have the damage to consistently fight you the whole game.

if you ignore him, he takes towers with TF + his ghouls very quickly. Even if you are ahead of him, he can go even in a 1v1 because of how much damage he can do with his ult up. If you send someone to gank him, now your team is 3v4 for another objective.

In most of the games I have personally played vs yorick, the yorick goes something awful on the scoreboard, like 3/14, but takes 1, maybe 2 inhibs, and usually is trying to win a base race alone when the game ends. Sometimes he wins, most of the time he doesnt.

So while Yorick might get beaten more often than not, he feels like shit to play against.

Barcid6 votes

So does Yi.

Guess who got the buff?

Oh, right. Trynd and Yi.

I sense a double standard.

floo1 votes

But Yi is getting kills not only splitpushing and since riot wants this season to be oneshot or be oneshot, Yi has to be strong :))

Verxint7 votes

As a Yorick player one thing that makes him really hard to play in solo queue is people don't realize I can push every lane at the same time consistently all game and they don't need to go catch side waves and for the love of crap let me spawn ghouls and have them travel with the creeps would you just go mid and have a standoff reeeee

y0r1ck1 votes

Lol this is a bad idea. Your ghouls and maiden push so slowly without you, that this strategy falls off after silver elo. And if you try to split push without maiden, you're fucked. Not to mention that by leaving your ghouls or maiden to push a lane you starve your team of a lot of gold.

Verxint1 votes

Lolwut? Managing the pressure of sidewaves is incredibly important at high rank. I can build up a monster wave and ghouls in one lane while I push with maiden in another. I can usually 1v1 anyone, so they have to send someone who at least I can't dive. But they also want to send someone to catch the balled up wave, but they also don't want to get dove mid.

y0r1ck1 votes

Look, you're very clearly new to yorick so I'll tell you very simply just as a favor. Do not use your ult to push a lane that you are not in.

Verxint1 votes

I can build up a monster wave and ghouls in one lane while I push with maiden in another.

You should try reading posts you reply to.

y0r1ck1 votes

can push every lane at the same time consistently all game

Your ghouls and maiden push so slowly without you, that this strategy falls off after silver elo. And if you try to split push without maiden, you're fucked. Not to mention that by leaving your ghouls or maiden to push a lane you starve your team of a lot of gold.

Verxint1 votes

Clearly you don't understand the importance of side wave pressure. Yorick is a master of that.

Second, why are you so fucking dense.

I can build up a monster wave and ghouls in one lane while I push with maiden in another. while I push with maiden in another. I push with maiden in another. I push with maiden I push with maiden

Nowhere in my post did I say to leave the maiden to push. I said that I (me, referring to myself) push with (accompanied by) the maiden (my ultimate)

y0r1ck1 votes

Why am I so dense? Because you said you can push every lane at once. You said you leave your ghouls in one. That's one lane. You said you push with maiden in another (notice how it's not specified that you're with it). That's two lanes. How do you push the third if not with yorick himself? I'm so dense.

Capn Of Capns1 votes

... His team is in mid having a standoff.

Boy! Read this.

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for the love of crap let me spawn ghouls and have them travel with the creeps would you just go mid and have a standoff reeeee

y0r1ck1 votes

He says he can consistently push every lane at once. So not only is that a bad idea, he contradicts himself.

"I can push every lane at the same time consistently all game and they don't need to go catch side waves"

So he denies his team gold and xp, and gives the enemy team easy-to-catch waves in a side lane. Even if I'm wrong and he's only pushing two lanes at once, it's STILL a bad idea. I'm just trying to help this guy realize that he's better off not doing this.

CHEWYARMS3 votes

It really is a fucking joke.

Legendary meme.

Guzergus2 votes

Agree. The players at low elo won't notice a thing since his entire kit seems to be too hard to handle for them.

Summonah123692 votes

Even tho he's rare he's NOWHERE near as Elise or Nidalee tbh.

Norglics2 votes

oh i wasnt even aware that there is a champ in lol named yorick , never seen it before:O

Tundra Hunter2 votes

+1 Stupid nerf.

TheCodeisCupCake1 votes

I main Darius so i'm satisfied.

Jk, he didn't need nerfs. Darius vs Yorick could be won if I played around his ghouls, honestly felt good when I did and won. Now I guess I just win brainlessly?

Tychusfindlay9181 votes

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I main Darius so i'm satisfied.

Jk, he didn't need nerfs. Darius vs Yorick could be won if I played around his ghouls, honestly felt good when I did and won. Now I guess I just win brainlessly?

"if played around gouls"

I think you mean if played around his cage.

"Darius main"

TheCodeisCupCake1 votes
  1. Check my history you Tychus fan boy

  2. I play Darius with ghost so cage isn't a problem

  3. Fuck you have a nice day

TwitchTv AOrval1 votes

"Why does Riot only balance for high elo!"

Riot nerfs a champion strong in low elo

"Why would Riot nerf a champion so bad in high elo?"

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