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Okay, WAY overboard on the constant LeBlanc nerfs. Can we be realistic and buff her now?

Wiggle Dat Butt··2 votes·2,657 views

Seriously her distortion is so slow now it's ridiculous and her chains are flashed out of every single time now. I literally blew 5 flashes in a matter of 2 minutes on the enemy team just on hitting them with chains. LeBlanc is so easily countered that it's laughable.

LEBLANC IS NOT A PINATA, STOP HITTING HER WITH THE NERF BAT!

She has had her nerfs 3-4 times now yet champions like Ekko, Thresh, Gragas, Reksai, Hecarim, Gnar, and others keep slipping on through untouched. Just because bad players cry tears all day long, because they don't know how to play against a champ, doesn't mean that you need to go nerfing the champ every single patch, Riot. If this keeps up, she is going to be reworked into a garbage and no fun champion. LeBlanc is either huge reward or trash. You either get fed, or you sit there and wish you were. This is basically the whole point of assassin champions. Buff LeBlanc's speed back and take away some time on how long it takes chains to snare.

Stop listening to the crybabies who can't handle playing against LeBlanc. She has always been the same and it's about time people learn to deal with it instead of ruining the game SCREAMING "NERF HER PLEASE!" There are people who love this champion, like me, and I'm sick of you making it less and less viable. This is already a tank meta where assassins are few and far between. If you don't want champions to have certain mechanics then don't create them in the champion. Stop ruining the champions that people enjoy and start nerfing the truly overpowered champs like Ekko.

29 Comments

IcyPepper7 votes

Seriously her distortion is so slow now it's ridiculous and her chains are flashed out of every single time now. I literally blew 5 flashes in a matter of 2 minutes on the enemy team just on hitting them with chains. LeBlanc is so easily countered that it's laughable.

And is that a bad thing?

If you "literally" blew 5 flashes on the enemy team, that's like open season for your jungler to gank every lane.

I mean, it's not like you have mobility to gap close on them without flash in the two+ minutes it takes for flash to go off cooldown, right?

BeatzBoyFTW3 votes

Fyi, Kassadin is still way worse than Leblanc, at least she didn't got her damage nerfed repeatedly like Kass does.

TheThundersRoar2 votes

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Wiggle Dat Butt1 votes

Maokai, Sivir, Fizz, and plenty others counter her very easily. One Maokai lockdown and she is dead, she is ridiculously squishy and needs to be able to get in and out of fights. This is how the champion was made, if they wanted another lame champion with a short range dash then they shouldn't have created her. Stop taking the fun out of this champion.

Lugg1 votes

Too bad she never has to worry about laning against Maokai and Sivir, so that doesn't matter at all. Fizz is pretty easy for her as well since her early game is WAY better than his.

And by "taking the fun out of this champion" you mean: Don't make this champion balanced, I love my freelo.

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

Maokai, Sivir, Fizz, and plenty others counter her very easily. One Maokai lockdown and she is dead, she is ridiculously squishy and needs to be able to get in and out of fights. This is how the champion was made, if they wanted another lame champion with a short range dash then they shouldn't have created her. Stop taking the fun out of this champion.

Uhhh, this situation is only assuming for the following scenarios. Either:

  • She is a cocky LB for trying to 1v5 a team, or
  • She sucks in playing LB to fight a simple tank Maokai.
DontBanMeImDrunk2 votes

if her passive was balanced, she would be much more manageable imo.

Easyaeta2 votes

Level 24

PyroAmos1 votes

didn't they nerf zed to recently. I think they're trying to take assassins out of the game, they mess the diversity up to much.

G1Radiobot1 votes

Ha! No.

Extreme Troller1 votes

lebanc was never viable since dfg was removed, why whining in forum is even a thing lol. Absolutly nobody care. leblanc is like bard or kassadin, only peons or troller play it to make the team lose so they can stay silver or goldioob..

BeatzBoyFTW3 votes

Meanwhile, LCS....

Extreme Troller1 votes

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Meanwhile, LCS....

LCS is full of noob theorycrafter it's just unbelievable. lcs player are football player, they are not their football coach. and lcs football coach is a bronze player.

all the imba strategy were never the idea of lcs player. ap trynda, full mid full push strategy etc

BeatzBoyFTW5 votes

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LCS is full of noob theorycrafter it's just unbelievable. lcs player are football player, they are not their football coach. and lcs football coach is a bronze player.

all the imba strategy were never the idea of lcs player. ap trynda, full mid full push strategy etc

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/19/19a781ba450beb4ff0d376acdbff5ced42441172ef1df487509a31c95620c9ff.jpg

Extreme Troller1 votes

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well you are just noob. You are the kind of people that will whine next month because leblanc is a bad champion.

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

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well you are just noob. You are the kind of people that will whine next month because leblanc is a bad champion.

http://ct.weirdnutdaily.com/ol/wn/sw/i53/2/11/9/wnd_c50fa246e893eb8ad35892c80e9e6879.jpg

Extreme Troller1 votes

i have hundred example. this is what will exactly happen. And you will say blalba metagame changed, blablbla luden echoe which were core (lol seriously luden echoe was NEVER core on leblanc) was nerfed blablabla. that kind of shît, i play since 2009 and this is everytime what happen.

1000angrybees1 votes

I'd rather bring back the assassin meta from last season as a whole than buff leblanc. and that was terrible.

LongHair Fox1 votes

Might still be relevant.

Frost the Reaper1 votes

This has to be a joke... Seriously I know I'm bronze and what not, but I play with a Plat 5 person in a lot of normals (Runeloz look him up) and even he admits LeBlanc needs to be balanced better. She's just to mobile. Honestly i wish they'd make her Q a skill shot as well. No reason that thing should be targeted... Ever... Literally....

Wiggle Dat Butt1 votes

She's already got two skill shots, bronzie. Your plat 5 friend is bad, I think I played with him yesterday. Your arguments are really invalid just because you dont know how to play against her, and apparently he doesn't either.

taleofsonata1 votes

Strange but we have the same dislike number because we wanted to talk about leblanc wow. Well then now it is time for someone to filter the dislike soo we know that it is all from the same computer.

Yordle Xayah1 votes

The speed boost matters little. I think it's funny and a bit sad that people, Zirene at the top, thinking the nerf was "A little too much" when she can still do everything she used to before the slow to distortion.

LeBlanc's problem is that she's too moblie, with very little cost or risk for very high rewards. Other assassins like Diana or Fizz, even Zed, need to commit to a single target to assassinate. While Zed can go back to shadows, he can only jump to a single target, who can QSS or Zhonya his deathmark. Diana and Fizz have to go all in, and if they fail, they will probably die.

LeBlanc can jump in and if it doesn't work, just go back to your starting position. You can do this every 6 seconds with the CDs as low as they are. Also, you don't commit to a single target, since your Distortion will continue to do AOE, very high.

Distortion is right now, a Do-it-all skill. Use it to engage, use it to escape, use it to assassinate, use it do do AoE, use it to harass, use it to wave clear, use it to jump over terrain, and it'll be back up in 6 seconds.

Having it be slower makes very little difference, and does not play to her strengths to keep her interesting while opening the so fabled Windows of Oportunity when playing against her.

They should have kept that speed she had, but make the skill have a meaningful cooldown, as well as a real mana cost. Can't forget she has a point+click damage amplification spell that's also on a 6 second cooldown.

I don't think Riot understands LeBlanc's problems, and I think she needs to be nerfed more, but better to keep her interesting. Not arbitrary changes that feel like experiments by people who don't seem to have a clue of what community has been pointing out for MONTHS.

And if you can't see any of this well... no wonder you think like Jatt about the nerf being "too much"...

Wiggle Dat Butt1 votes

EVERY SINGLE ASSASSIN you mention and complain about, has either a MASSIVE SHIELD, or states of INVULNERABILITY/UNTARGETABILITY with high mobility. LeBlanc has neither.

Yordle Xayah1 votes

  • Diana's shield "massive"?? Are you even being serious about that one? Have you seen Ekko's or remember pre-nerf Riven's?? Or maybe you weren't even around when she had THAT shield.

  • Fizz has to use Playful Trickster offensively when the mark is being tagged by the ult, or he won't do the damage he needs to kill the target, thus can't be used to escape afterwards. If you didn't know this, then it doesn't surprise me you think like you do.

  • Zed is, in fact, targetable, and unlike LeBlanc, he has to wait one second before returning to the spawn place of his shadows. LeBlanc can instantly return to the original location.

Wiggle Dat Butt1 votes

Lol what a terrible Fanatic fanboy, I would expect nothing but idiotic comments and you did not let us down. Yes Diana's shield gets massive mid-end and is pretty solid in the early game.. and can block an entire Q+R combo from a fed leblanc easy.

Obviously you're a terrible Fizz, and bank everything on your ability to 100-0 someone and leave yourself no escape instead of widdling down the target to 60-70% and not even needing to use the E. I wouldn't speak anymore on this if I were you.

Zed is, in fact, untargetable when he ults and has just as much gap closing/escape potential as LeBlanc. You're quite obviously one of those Zed players who just sits in game and spams laugh even though they are getting wrecked. Yes Zed got a 1 second (WHOOP DEE DOO) time on returning to his Shadow. Whats the point? He needs to do damage in that one second after using his ult for it to do decent damage anyway, that 1 second hurts NO ONE.

You are definitely cheering for the right team, because you sir-- are an idiot.

Yordle Xayah1 votes

Uh? What does FNATIC have to do with any of this?

I'll tell you something though. You bring that, and you call me an idiot. You've lost me there so... yeah, bye bye.

FooDang1 votes

You blew 5 enemy flashes in 2 minutes? Thats a win right?

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