"Troll" is a vague construct of your imagination.

Mãge··7 votes·841 views

Yes, it's all in your head because you want everyone else to conform to the rigid confines you place yourself in. No, other people don't live the box you made for yourself.

No, that player playing Brand Support is not a "troll".

No, that Quinn top is not "trolling."

No, that duo jungle is not "trolling."

And no, that AP Ezreal is not a "troll".

There's more than one way to play the game. In fact, the very way Riot placed lanes in champion select already irks me because it panders to the idea that there are well-formed, solid "rules" on how League of Legends can be played.

Before ya'll youngins came to League, duo top was a thing. Ashe with teleport mid was a thing. AP this and that on normally AD scaling champions, before Riot removed most of them, was a thing.

There is a generally optimal way to play - to farm gold in lane is to acquire an advantage to purchase items that grant stats your opponents can't necessarily react to advantageously. But it does not mean you have to do it. It's only one strategy. So, no this and that isn't trolling. If any of the above is trolling, I've been "trolling" since I began playing the game. And in all these years, I've never been chat restricted, banned, or anything of the like.

I believe I speak for a majority that have also never been punished in any way for playing extremely off-meta playstyles like AD Bard and Ahri or Support Ashe.

No, League doesn't live in YOUR box. Deal with it.

20 Comments

Jbels6 votes

You completely avoided describing actual trolling. I mean, you basically made an unnecessarily long post about what everyone already knows isn't trolling, good job, but no. Trolling IS real, and it ruins games for people every hour of every day.

No, the Quinn top isn't a troll. She's just purposefully walking into the enemy team, dying, and then all-chatting "Report my team, so troll"

No, that Brand support isn't a troll. He's just doing everything he can to deny his ADC CS, and when the ADC begs him to stop, tells them "Fuck you"

No, that Duo Jungle isn't trolling, they're just letting a lane get free farm because they want to do their duo jungle thing, forcing everyone to watch them give up doubles to the enemy team because they aren't as good as they thought they were, and eventually they just start doing it on purpose.

No, that AP Ezreal isn't a troll, he's just constantly going bot, taking CS from the ADC and spamming laugh because the ADC is perfectly fine with it.

You need to wake up. Trolling is as real as you or me. Denying it under the pretense of "It isn't trolling to go off meta" doesn't change that trolling is real, and hated by the majority of the playerbase

Pill Slinger1 votes

Exaaactly. There is such a clear difference between stuff like being bad or "off-meta" and trolling. I really can't understand why people can't comprehend this.

DrCyanide1 votes

XinZhao summoner 7 summoner 6 item 3301 item 3115 item 3158 item 1042 Top Lane, 1/5/1, 54 CS at 29 minutes.

I still have no idea if he was trolling ranked or if he was that much of a noob.

Pill Slinger1 votes

If you're level 30 and doing that, you are 100% a troll lol.

GamerThink4 votes

Confusing off-meta picks with trolling only makes finding the actual trolls harder. He has a point: stop complaining about the pick, and the true trolls will come out.

Many people call you a "troll" just for picking an off-meta champ, those are the ones to whom this post is addressed.

Jbels1 votes

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Confusing off-meta picks with trolling only makes finding the actual trolls harder. He has a point: stop complaining about the pick, and the true trolls will come out.

Many people call you a "troll" just for picking an off-meta champ, those are the ones to whom this post is addressed.

If that was the message of this post, I would be perfectly fine with it. But he went one step further to claim that trolling was a "vague construct of our minds" and tried to argue that trolling isn't real

GamerThink1 votes

Most people can understand the difference between real trolling and off-meta picks, like you. But this post is clearly not addressed to them, so stop worrying.

TyrekGoldenspear3 votes

"Troll" is a vague construct of your imagination.

Then explain Trundle's existence.

I am Pacman2 votes

Off meta is not trolling no.

There's more than one way to play the game. In fact, the very way Riot placed lanes in champion select already irks me because it panders to the idea that there are well-formed, solid "rules" on how League of Legends can be played.

Yeah but that is the optimal way to play the game if you want to win.

duo top was a thing

And it sucked because you were forced to split exp and gold along with having zero jungle presence. Now if you go duo top without telling the actual top laner then they probably gonna report you.

Ashe with teleport mid was a thing

Adc mid used to be the meta. I don't understand how you are arguing against the meta with this one. It literally WAS the meta until people realized adcs were better bot with a babysitter.

AP this and that on normally AD scaling champions, before Riot removed most of them, was a thing.

Most of it was cancer as well. Rememver AP yi? zero counterplay to his damage, healed for ridiculous amounts and his q reset on kils. He was basically an untagetable katarina who then had dmg reduction and a heal. AP tryndamere? The most cancerous splitpusher of all time. Out damaged and always healed back up.

Ap used to work because thats how riot designed champions back then. With Ability power on abilities and attack damage on auto attacks. Some of them were fine and legitimately balanced (ap trist for a time) while others were pure cancer and when they were strong they were either permabanned or they solo carried games.

Going ad bard or ad ahri today in normals is also not trolling. Even in ranked I'd say its not as long as your team agrees to let you go ad bard. As soon as its ranked and your team says no, then its trolling.

I am Pacman2 votes

Obviously trolling is also any other action that intentionally tries to lose the game of fuck with their team in a negative way just for the fun of it. Int feeding, Afk in base, telling the enemy where your teammates are etc. but you were only focused on off meta and didnt list many actual trolling situations.

Zelorxon2 votes
  1. brand is a mid laner and a support

  2. quinn is an adc and a top laner, she saw better days when se was a jungler too

  3. 2 people jungle? uninstall at once.

  4. ap ezreal? if mid lane it's ok, even if it will be a burst damage build and not sustained damage, not viable tho since varus does the exact same things and easier

Being a troll means ruining intentionally people's experience, it doesn't necessarily needs to be stupid too, even if the two things most likely overlap.

Back then the meta wasn't formed, and people stomped top lane simply by knowing that renekton had an auto reset and pro players back then declared "soraka urgot is literally unbeatable", the game evolves, there are mathematical optimizations that will let you do things better and easier, of course the game is still continuous discovery, nobody would have guessed that annie makes for an excellent support, but there's reasoning behind that, not just because "i wanted to have fun xd xP", "please pay attention to me", "i like to do things as my brain says, except for being a total sheep in every aspect of my life".

Now please stop being the theorycrafmaster special snowflake that goes twitch jungle, shaco top and malphite support and have fun playing the game.

Mimy1 votes

Wanna know what is troll?

Pushing the buttons of a raging person so they rage harder and report them when they finally step out of line.

Then getting report feedback almost every time.

That's.. Is pretty troll.


Doing something off meta.. Is normal. For me at least.

IRyzeForNidalee1 votes

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Wanna know what is troll?

Pushing the buttons of a raging person so they rage harder and report them when they finally step out of line.

Then getting report feedback almost every time.

That's.. Is pretty troll.


Doing something off meta.. Is normal. For me at least.

Sad thing is that's the only way to get report feedback.

Only time I ever got that feedback message was when I decided to introduce my friendly adc lux with a penchant for wishing death on teammates' families, who didn't like that our mid refused to hand over his role, to the joy of full-cdr trundle pillars.

boo9101 votes

trolling is pissing someone off. im ok with anything off meta really. But i will camp your lane because of fear and i want to see how this plays out.

Critmaster Garen1 votes

so is math. its still a thing.

ok, its not vague, its very specific. but its still a thing.

Woodakoodashooda1 votes

You should have titled this better. Because you didn't, you came off as ignorant and offensive.

Edit: Oh, and by the way, I just had to dodge a queue because our "support" went Eve with smite. So...yea, bringing the kind of annoying nonsense you listed in your post into ranked IS troll.

Players know it probably won't work.

Players know it will, in all likelihood, result in 4 other players losing LP they could have earned otherwise.

And despite knowing that it will result in other players suffering, they do it anyway for their personal amusement. And that, OP, is trolling.

Mecha MaIphite1 votes

I believe I speak for a majority

So if you already know that most people don't consider off-meta picks to be trolling, why are you making this post?

Ralanr1 votes

The Shaco jungle who forgot smite and always ran away from fights that he said he'd help with was a troll. The Shaco that mocked my death count was a troll. The Shaco that always ran from teamfights despite saying he'd help was a troll.

Actions define a troll.

IRyzeForNidalee1 votes

{quoted}

The Shaco jungle who forgot smite and always ran away from fights that he said he'd help with was a troll. The Shaco that mocked my death count was a troll. The Shaco that always ran from teamfights despite saying he'd help was a troll.

Actions define a troll.

That's not a troll. That's a shaco player.

reaperteaser1 votes

team tele-smite FTW

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