Why does Darius heal for 36% of missing health on his Q?

KING ATTILA·May 5, 2016·6 votes·3,103 views

36% of missing health Why? Nerf the heal and he won't be so broken.

*edit: so many Darius mains.

28 Comments

Tychusfindlay919May 6, 20163 votes

Your OP is extremely misleading and biased.

His maximum potential heal on his Q is 36% missing HP (can be augmented).

There are so many caveats here though.

He has to hit at least three champions with his Q, and to be more specific, the Q outer ring has to hit these three or more champions. Especially after they nerfed the outer ring radius, getting a complete heal on Darius Q is actually very rare.

You have to remember that Darius Q is now telegraphed, and many times, it ends up going off sub-optimally because of it.

If you ask me, they shouldn't have nerfed the outer ring radius since it now has a cast time. In any case, Darius Q and Darius in general is not broken.

DefendedMay 5, 20162 votes

Because he has close to no damage late game.

Tychusfindlay919May 6, 20162 votes

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Because he has close to no damage late game.

Uhhhhh No, darius damage is relevant throughout the game, beginning and end, especially if he hits noxian might.

DefendedMay 6, 20161 votes

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Uhhhhh No, darius damage is relevant throughout the game, beginning and end, especially if he hits noxian might.

Thats false. Darius damage is only good if he autos someone 5 times.. In that case only his ult does damage.

Tychusfindlay919May 6, 20161 votes

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Thats false. Darius damage is only good if he autos someone 5 times.. In that case only his ult does damage.

That's false. Darius damage is always relevant, his E passive and hemhorrage's insane synergy with black cleaver ensures this.

If he reaches noxian might everything he does hurts like shit. whether its 40 bonus AD at level 1 or 200 bonus AD at level 18, noxian might is painful to deal with.

DefendedMay 6, 20161 votes

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That's false. Darius damage is always relevant, his E passive and hemhorrage's insane synergy with black cleaver ensures this.

If he reaches noxian might everything he does hurts like shit. whether its 40 bonus AD at level 1 or 200 bonus AD at level 18, noxian might is painful to deal with.

Darius damage on anyone with 1 piece of single tank item does no damage... I play darius all the time and i know that. You need to all in them there is no trading unless getting your Q

Tychusfindlay919May 6, 20161 votes

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Darius damage on anyone with 1 piece of single tank item does no damage... I play darius all the time and i know that. You need to all in them there is no trading unless getting your Q

Unless if the lolking account I saw was a different one, I play darius way more than you play darius. Way way more. So don't even try going there, and at quite a few ranks above you.

DefendedMay 7, 20161 votes

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Unless if the lolking account I saw was a different one, I play darius way more than you play darius. Way way more. So don't even try going there, and at quite a few ranks above you.

Ok lets just 1v1 since you're being a freaking idiot. I'll show you how darius damage falls off baby.

DefendedMay 7, 20161 votes

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Unless if the lolking account I saw was a different one, I play darius way more than you play darius. Way way more. So don't even try going there, and at quite a few ranks above you.

and wait what the hell do you mean. You're gold 1 i'm gold 3. LOL you are using that as a reason to why you are right and im wrong? Alright bro.

A darius main who claims darius damage doesnt fall off.. kk

Tychusfindlay919May 7, 20161 votes

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and wait what the hell do you mean. You're gold 1 i'm gold 3. LOL you are using that as a reason to why you are right and im wrong? Alright bro.

A darius main who claims darius damage doesnt fall off.. kk

It doesn't scale like an ADCs, but it doesn't fall off like a freaking rock either. And of course, it's all about the five stacks later game.

DefendedMay 7, 20161 votes

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It doesn't scale like an ADCs, but it doesn't fall off like a freaking rock either. And of course, it's all about the five stacks later game.

Thats what i ment. Maybe i shouldve been more clear my bad but darius late game is all about the 5 stacks. His Q becomes a survivability skill. Im not saying darius is bad i love playing him but you do have to respect that its only his ult late game.

Tychusfindlay919May 7, 20162 votes

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Thats what i ment. Maybe i shouldve been more clear my bad but darius late game is all about the 5 stacks. His Q becomes a survivability skill. Im not saying darius is bad i love playing him but you do have to respect that its only his ult late game.

It's about noxian might. Noxian might darius without ult can still change fights.

200 AD just isn't something to be shrugged off.

DefendedMay 7, 20161 votes

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It's about noxian might. Noxian might darius without ult can still change fights.

200 AD just isn't something to be shrugged off.

Did you completely ignore the part you quoted "darius late game is all about 5 stacks". Because thats what noxian might is.. Please read

hOrnnMay 24, 20161 votes

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Did you completely ignore the part you quoted "darius late game is all about 5 stacks". Because thats what noxian might is.. Please read

If u dunk a low health squishy and get the kill u get his passive u can kill all easy then if u built fulltank

hOrnnMay 24, 20161 votes

220Ad that his q w and ult scale iff of, plus his 25% free armor penn.

hOrnnMay 24, 20161 votes

Idiot he gets a free 220ad at lvl18 that applies all stacks dunk ready with 1 hit and the bleed and auto resetting w, darius heal is fine, his passives busted tho

DefendedMay 24, 20161 votes

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Idiot he gets a free 220ad at lvl18 that applies all stacks dunk ready with 1 hit and the bleed and auto resetting w, darius heal is fine, his passives busted tho

Yep but hitting 5 stacks and staying on their squishies is a challenge late game.. Late game darius is extremely squishy if your assassin cant kill their zed

hOrnnMay 24, 20161 votes

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Yep but hitting 5 stacks and staying on their squishies is a challenge late game.. Late game darius is extremely squishy if your assassin cant kill their zed

Untrue darius does not need one damage item not even cleaver he nerds no cdr when ult is no cost and rezetting with passive and passive armor pen, flash ghost full tank penta gg

DefendedMay 24, 20161 votes

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Untrue darius does not need one damage item not even cleaver he nerds no cdr when ult is no cost and rezetting with passive and passive armor pen, flash ghost full tank penta gg

u get black cleaver for the 300 health + armor pen

hOrnnMay 24, 20161 votes

Incorrect, he doesnt need the pen he already gets 25% and true damage, 300 is not that gud when u get 500 with armor mr stats on most tank items, u get bleaver for phage, but its unneeded when u can go swufties deadmans vusage omen Banshees be unkillable and unpeelable if u were smart enough to keystone stormriders surge. Last item cam be anything from that redfist thay shields 30%hp to ga to warmogs to frozrn heart to attavkspeed for faster passive and ms. Phone kb errors

DefendedMay 24, 20161 votes

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Incorrect, he doesnt need the pen he already gets 25% and true damage, 300 is not that gud when u get 500 with armor mr stats on most tank items, u get bleaver for phage, but its unneeded when u can go swufties deadmans vusage omen Banshees be unkillable and unpeelable if u were smart enough to keystone stormriders surge. Last item cam be anything from that redfist thay shields 30%hp to ga to warmogs to frozrn heart to attavkspeed for faster passive and ms. Phone kb errors

If you are hitting a target with more than 2k health and you dont have black cleaver....

Good luck even trying to ult..

hOrnnMay 24, 20161 votes

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If you are hitting a target with more than 2k health and you dont have black cleaver....

Good luck even trying to ult..

What? Health is not armor and cleaver does not do max percent health damage.

DefendedMay 24, 20161 votes

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What? Health is not armor and cleaver does not do max percent health damage.

Ok teach me more Bronze 1

hOrnnMay 24, 20161 votes

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Ok teach me more Bronze 1

Obviously ur sone gild at best darius spammer so theres that, but dont spit bullshiir

CaciqueMay 24, 20162 votes

Darius is a weird champion with wonky stats. His slow makes sense, his pull makes sense, his spin makes sense, and the dunk is all the rage. But the heal is just out of place. He shouldn't heal. He should be a bit more tanky, and maybe even a bit more mobile, but healing just doesn't make sense. The spin could raise his armor and magic resist a bit, or increase his movement speed. Darius is on my permanent ban list because nothing is more frustrating than taking out most of an enemy team just for the 0/2/0 Darius to come down and get a quadra kill while walking the cusp of death only to come out with more health than he went in with.

My eeeeelMay 5, 20161 votes

Well, cause his axe is made of soraka. or actually many sorakas.

cocacolalipsMay 7, 20161 votes

That moment when Darius heals more than Vladimir.

Meep ManMay 7, 20161 votes

The thing is Darius is decently balanced right now. He just has situations where he can really crush and others where he REALLY can't. To an extent, that is healthy.