Kill bruisers to save tanks.

Unironic SJW··3 votes·934 views

The reason why you can't allow tanks to be strong is because any tank item you allow to be strong means that the bruiser with free stats and damage built into their kit can buy it with their one offensive item and shit on any squishy they want because they burst them in one combo while being tanky enough to survive 2 or more people trying to kill them. Think LeeSin JarvanIV Irelia Jax . When bruisers are strong, they essentially give you everything a tank does while doing assassin things, and when they're weak, they do neither. So what need to be done with these champions is to just destroy the "Fighter" concept and just separate them into either assassins or tanks depending on their kit.

Examples: Garen seems an ideal candidate to become a pure tank. Make his W last longer and give it a shorter CD, make his Q do less damage but increase the speed boost and make him immune to slows while it's active, lower his E damage

LeeSin Remove the shield, gut his base defensive stats and HP, lower his bases but make his ratios scale off total AD, and make Q easier to hit or have a lower CD. Essentially he would be primarily a flashy playmaking assassin who does no damage if he tries to build tanky. tanky Lee Sin should be as silly as tanky Zed. Also move the execute to his ult.

Irelia Probably need to make her pure AD and scale heavily with AD. Probably make her mobile.

Jax Probably lower Leap Strike CD and Counterstrike CD even further. Maybe give it better base damage or AD scaling so it's viable for farming.

Olaf I think Olaf would need some kit changes. Maybe have his R give damage reduction and extra speed? I'm not sure how to make an Olaf that builds 6 damage items viable outside of a mega snowballing situation. But it's not like squishy melee doesn't exist right?

Volibear Voli is someone who could become a true tank instead of a fighter. I would change his R and W into something else, not sure what. Some sort of defensive steroid?

The point is that "is really tanky" and "does a lot of damage" shouldn't be on the same champion. The entire fighter class permits this especially if you let defensive items be too strong, because they have enough damage to kill squishies built into their kits. Fix this and now not only can you do more with tank items (buffs to Omen/Warmogs/Visage/etc) but you can do more with APen (imo APen should largely something that ADCs build, so here's how I'd change item 3035 )

Last Whisper 25% Attack Speed 25% Critical Strike Percentage Unique Passive: Basic attacks ignore 15% of total armor, and apply a debuff reducing bonus armor by a further 10% (stacks up to 5 times)

In short, I feel that getting rid of the traditional bruiser archetype and splitting those champions into "champs that do low damage and build primarily defensive items and champs that do high damage and build primarily offensive items" will open up a lot of new things for the game.

13 Comments

SexyTaylorSwift7 votes

You just made Last Whisper ignore 65% of Armor, and gave it Crit. That is really strong.

Unironic SJW1 votes

The crit should probably go but you have to hit the target 5 times to get it to do anything

SexyTaylorSwift1 votes

I mean, you pretty much have to hit a target 5 times to do anything anyway lol.

Aurelius Maximus4 votes

i dont understand why everything thinks tanks are dead

Kowe The Ewok3 votes

Because after the removal of last season's tank jungle item all tank items are money inefficient.

While I disagree with the approach of the op I agree that efficient singl items are to easily abusable as we've seen in S1 and S2.

I however wouldn't suggest nerfing bruisers, but re-introducing %-bonus health like we had it last season on our jungle item.

Aurelius Maximus3 votes

it doesn't matter if they are ineffecient. If i can play tanks and be strong as hell maybe yall are doing it wrong

I admit i miss old ancient golem but I feel like people are being especailly lazy this preseason and refusing to change and instead voting for riot to do it for them

Angry Monster3 votes

you do not play tanks for a reason.

Sion is not supposed to be built pure D items by the way. And is not a tank. He is a brusier

Aurelius Maximus1 votes

if you think sion isn't a tank I have no idea what to tell you. He serves all functions of a tank in all regards.

Angry Monster4 votes

Are you on crack you just buffed last whisper by alot!

Xonra1 votes

Darius has fallen out of favor to a degree but he can still build just as tanky itemization wise as most tanks and still do as much damage as most people with just one good damage item, even two really and wreck faces.

DWT123451 votes

Tanks are dead. live with it, except the meta, keep with the times and start playing bruisers.

The Angry Hippie1 votes

np.....just no

Kuroi861 votes

Eh, while I agree that bruisers are a pain to balance, they are hardly the single reason that tank itemization was hit so hard.
See Meta Golem.

A good fix, bring back the % health item. Yeah, makes it core on all tanks, but considering IE and LW are core on ADC, why not? It's that or give tanks some sort of % item for defenses.

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