Riot could bring Machete's price down to 360...

PrinceKO·Mar 3, 2015·4 votes·1,100 views

...to allow struggling junglers to actually complete their first clear with 3 pots, finally solving the problem of jungle diversity.

But nah, can clear just fine, no need to make this change.

8 Comments

RazorTSMar 3, 20154 votes

you got bad rune setup if you have trouble clearing first 3 camps, most can clear 4 camps before backing

GangMar 3, 20153 votes

The problem with making junglers being able to buy more potions is that Aggressive junglers, who are OP right now, can use it to gank with full HP bars, buffing them as well, making the change pretty useless.

OhOkYeaMar 3, 20152 votes

Dunno about the other two but lee sin doesnt clear that well at level 1 compared to others. Hell fiddle/warwick dont even need smite or machete.

BluePolarizerMar 3, 20151 votes

s4 fiddle amp tome mana pot start is gg

ErockandrollMar 3, 20152 votes

Or we can just nerf the camps.

Crimson Raptor

Damage reduced to 45 from 55

Greater Murk Wolf

Gold increased to 53 from 42

Gromp

Damage reduced to 83 from 90

Murk Wolf

Gold increased to 16 from 12

Raptor

Damage reduced to 16 from 20
       --surrender at 20

Sire HippingtonMar 3, 20151 votes

the problem is that then junglers like JarvanIV will be able to get double buff, go with full health for a gank, then clear the rest of their jungle and gank again with full health, and then they probably still have a potion left...

CindikleMar 3, 20151 votes

Most tank junglers survive just fine.

The problem generally is that they clear too slow and some require their ult to gank as well as the level 2 gankers. Top it off their damage in a gank is sup-par. Meaning the gank will already be less successful.

IMO counter jungling needs to be stronger. Punishing level 2 ganks by taking out their jungle isn't viable. If it was the level 2 gankers would be a risk/reward choice.

SerevasMar 3, 20151 votes

Try going after the scuttle crab for a third camp, then returning to another camp, also unless you have mass AOE you probably shouldn't even look at the Raptor camp until your item upgrade.