I don't like that Zac's ult knocks enemies away... and as they go... they kill all his bloblets...

needHymn··2 votes·838 views

I don't think Zac's new (old) ult really fits his play style. Zac is all about controlling the crowd, not knocking them away. I like the multiple bounces, and the additional damage. But I don't like the knock away.

The "dream" engage for Zac is to sling in, slap two enemies together, then ult. With each ability, and with each bounce of his ult, a bloblet is created. So by the time he presses all those buttons, there should be bloblets everywhere. Then, as he is bouncing multiple times with his ult, it gives him a bit of move speed, which he can use to "bounce around" and collect those bloblets. And as he does so... those bloblets reduce the cooldown on his W, so he bounces around with his ult, simultaneously spamming W, for a really nice combo. That's every Zac's dream engage.

Problem is, that dream isn't happening. And it's cuz his R knocks the enemies away. So he does the combo just like I described above. The ground is covered in bloblets everywhere. But then he presses R, and instantly 90% of those bloblets are destroyed. His R knocks all the enemies away, in every direction. And as they are knocked away, they slide over his bloblets, which destroys them. Now Zac is bouncing around with his R, but there's few bloblets to collect. Also, enemies are now much more spread out, so even for the few bloblets he does manage to collect, it's hard to hit all the enemies with his W because now they are all spread out because his R knocked them all away.

ALL of the above issues would be solved is his R simply knocked them straight up, instead of knocking them away. I realize some noob Zac's may be using R as an "escape tool", to knock enemies away so the Zac can try to run. But plz, that's not Zac. A real Zac wants the enemies to stay clumped together so he can bounce around, collect blobs, and spam W's onto them.

Anyway, I wish Zac's R would just knock enemies straight up and not knock them away. This would mean fewer of his bloblets would be destroyed when he presses R, so he could bounce around and collect them, and thus be able to spam more W's during the teamfight.

6 Comments

SuperLuigiLXIV2 votes

It used to.

Problem is, much like the previous ult, it was too predictable for the power of the button. It had to be changed.

Not that it matters. Being able to put enemy champions where you want using the Zac ult is part of learning how to be good with him. And it is intensely satisfying when you do it right.

The Ecdysiast2 votes

They reverted the ult back to its original version. It works just as it used to, and enemies squishing any blobs along the way was always a side-effect.

MrEkkkkkko2 votes

the question is, when ur enjoying ur dream, do u want that happen while zac is on enemy team? also, this ult was the first zac ult, and zac was op for various metas, so i dont think thats a HUGE problem here.

what i say is, zacs q and r dont have good interactions so i like old q as well(slap enemies u facing and slow them down).

Chembaron Yamada1 votes

I was really sad when they reverted his ultimate. The new ultimate enabled great plays, synergised with his kit way more, and fit him thematically in a perfect way.

And his ult icon is now mocking me, since it is still the new updated one, while he has his old ult now. The icon doesn't match what the skill does anymore now and will always remind me of this sad, sad revert.

SuperLuigiLXIV1 votes

I mean, except for the part where it only did the first thing, yeah.

Thematically, Zac's about chaos and joy. A precision kidnapping ult is literally the opposite of his characterization, given that he's basically the Superman of LoL.

And Zac's kit was always about fluidity and movement. Aside from the E, which was meant to be your opening button, with Zac's original kit you never stopped moving around. His new Q and R ruined that playstyle in the name of what Riot thinks was better design.

I'll give you that the new ult did enable great plays, though....much like the old ultimate. Just in a different fashion than was intended for the character.

Kartoffelsuppe1 votes

that sounds like it would be completely broken and OP on it's own already not even taking into account when you have Amumu Kennen Brand Malphite on your team

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