Can anyone explain how replacing marksmen with fighters in the bot lane is diversity?

T I L T B O I··2 votes·1,015 views

how is making one class unviable and just having more top laners in the game diversity? it's the complete opposite, who the hell was like, we should have irelia, yasuo, wukong, zed, darius, aatrox, talon, and rengar in every game?

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saltran4 votes

With Mages you mean.

T I L T B O I2 votes

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https://imgur.com/G55SpWa https://imgur.com/buPYQAm

these pictures are meaningless without context and show most marksmen that go bot lane having 50 or less w/r which is not healthy for the role at all, 52-53 indicates strong, 54-55 is very strong and 56 is in need of nerfs, not a single champion in that lane fits this, which also just shows top lane dictates the game and having a top laner or mage there further increases win chance with marksmenbeing too weak to really help out versus top tier fighters

Ahpe1 votes

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these pictures are meaningless without context and show most marksmen that go bot lane having 50 or less w/r which is not healthy for the role at all, 52-53 indicates strong, 54-55 is very strong and 56 is in need of nerfs, not a single champion in that lane fits this, which also just shows top lane dictates the game and having a top laner or mage there further increases win chance with marksmenbeing too weak to really help out versus top tier fighters

Bro I was just making sure people were getting a clearer picture lmao

BrightWîngs2 votes

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https://imgur.com/G55SpWa https://imgur.com/buPYQAm

some are still good but mass majority are not lets see on OP.gg right now

MissFortune 53.28% wr next marksmen is Jhin 51.40% wr these are decent win rates but take a close look at just about everyone one else

Lucian 49.93% wr just barely reaching 50% 24.35% PR Ezreal 49.14% wr same thing 36.11% PR Kaisa 47.76% wr 18.06% PR Ashe 49.74% wr 3.92% PR Xayah 48.40% wr 7.96% PR Caitlyn 47.39% wr 3.52% PR Varus 47.05% wr 3.26% PR Vayne 49.37% wr 7.95% PR Sivir 47.62% wr 2.00% PR KogMaw 48.05% wr 1.12% PR Kalista 49.92% wr 1.80% PR Tristana 46.57% wr 3.71% PR Jinx 50.89% wr 6.17%PR

the issue is that most of them are barely reaching a 50% winrate and all of them minus 3 of them have decent pick rates too

Gabresol2 votes

marksmane are not unviable in any way. Not only did some find themselves an even harder carry role with funneling (what was basicly replacing the actual jungler for a secound support), some of them can still be played on bot if they scale quick enough or you stomp had enough.

ChargeItDownMid2 votes

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OtterlyLost1 votes

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No one replaced marksmen, there are now choices on top of marksmen who can go bot lane. Marksmen are still one of the best champions to pick bot, they just aren't the only ones anymore.

One of the best champs to pick bot. looks at the 12 sub 50% winrate marksmen

Best champs to pick bot.

looks at Swain, yasuo, ziggs, and mordekaiser with their decent pick rates and +50% winrates

Best... champions to pick... bot...

Chumpzi11a1 votes

It's not diversity. It's bot lane diversity. As the slime of marksmen did spread across the map, now ye shall reap as ye have sewn. Crit adcs had the last year and then some. It's their turn in the dumpster.

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